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      thwr @Danp
      last edited by thwr

      @Danp said in Virtualization build:

      Recently got a quote for the following used server --

      Dell R720 SFF
      Dual E5-2670 8 core 2.5 Ghz
      192 GB RAM
      8x New Samsung 480GB SSD 
      H710 integrated LSI SAS RAID 0-6
      16 drive Bay server
      Dual 750W power supply
      Rail kit
      1 year warranty
      

      Quoted price was $2629/ea. The plan would be to replace my aging R905 with two newer servers.

      Comments or suggestions?

      Looking at the new SSDs (PM/SM series?), the good amount of RAM, the decent CPU and 1y warranty... Doesn't sound bad at all. Dell is also not a bad choice.

      Homelab? If so: Do you really want to spend so much money?

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        MattSpeller
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        I f***[moderated]ing wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

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          DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
          last edited by gjacobse

          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

          I f***[moderated]ing wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

          But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

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            MattSpeller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

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              Danp
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              @thwr No, this would be for production usage. The SSDs are enterprise Samsung. Here's the spec sheet.

              @MattSpeller Ebay listing

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                DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

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                  Danp @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

                  Not sure. Was told that they would work fine, but would exhibit the known issue in OMSA.

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                    MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by gjacobse

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                    Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                    border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                    Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                    "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                    Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                    https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

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                      DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                      last edited by gjacobse

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                      Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                      border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                      Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                      "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                      Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                      https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                      Eh... Canada sounds almost as bad as American customs, except they just ask, "anything to declare"

                      "Nope, just headed home"

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                        DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                        last edited by gjacobse

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                        Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                        border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                        Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                        "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                        Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                        https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                        And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                        What's the tax on that?

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                          MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by gjacobse

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                          I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                          border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                          Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                          "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                          Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                          https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                          And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                          What's the tax on that?

                          You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                          Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                          2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                          Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

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                            RamblingBiped @MattSpeller
                            last edited by

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                            Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                            "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                            Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                            https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                            And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                            What's the tax on that?

                            You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                            Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                            2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                            Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                            What if we inserted and secured the servers into one of the big bubble bouncy ball things and delivered it via trebuchet?

                            alt text

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                              RamblingBiped
                              last edited by

                              I mean, it isn't like he's using HDDs; everything should still be within warranty on landing right?

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                                BRRABill @Danp
                                last edited by

                                @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

                                Not sure. Was told that they would work fine, but would exhibit the known issue in OMSA.

                                Depends on the drive. I tried Kingston and EDGE SSDs that the manufacturer claimed worked, and exhibited issues in addition to not appearing in OMSA.

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                                  MattSpeller @RamblingBiped
                                  last edited by

                                  @RamblingBiped said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                  "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                  Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                  https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                  And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                  What's the tax on that?

                                  You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                                  Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                                  2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                                  Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                                  What if we inserted and secured the servers into one of the big bubble bouncy ball things and delivered it via trebuchet?

                                  alt text

                                  I have no clue but that excites me in a "don't want to be caught doing it but really want to find out" kinda way

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                                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                    I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                    Shit, have it delivered to the US and drive here pick it up!

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                                      Dashrender @Danp
                                      last edited by

                                      @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                                      @thwr No, this would be for production usage. The SSDs are enterprise Samsung. Here's the spec sheet.

                                      @MattSpeller Ebay listing

                                      OMG how are you getting Enterprise drives so CHEAP? I would expect the drives to be more than your listed price.

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                                        Dashrender @Danp
                                        last edited by

                                        @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                                        Recently got a quote for the following used server --

                                        Dell R720 SFF
                                        Dual E5-2670 8 core 2.5 Ghz
                                        192 GB RAM
                                        8x New Samsung 480GB SSD 
                                        H710 integrated LSI SAS RAID 0-6
                                        16 drive Bay server
                                        Dual 750W power supply
                                        Rail kit
                                        1 year warranty
                                        

                                        Quoted price was $2629/ea. The plan would be to replace my aging R905 with two newer servers.

                                        Comments or suggestions?

                                        Where did the quote come from? xByte?

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                                          MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by MattSpeller

                                          @Dashrender no clue but he did link an ebay post below

                                          http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R720-SFF-16-Bay-Dual-E5-2670-192GB-RAM-2-4TB-H710-2x-PWS-Rail-Kit-/152215083076?hash=item2370b9d844:g:dPcAAOSwMtxXuz~z

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                                            NashBrydges @MattSpeller
                                            last edited by

                                            @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

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