TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router
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@scottalanmiller SO are you saying i should return the one I have and get the edgerouter x?
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@cteneyck Hello there. As the Community Owner and Moderator I would like to give you a few pieces of advice.
- If you want help - then listen to the advice given
- The IT Pro's will get frustrated - when you don't listen
- Jared did give you advice even if a little harsh on how to give them proper information to help
We are all human and people do get frustrated from time to time. But we also take the road of being who we are. Sometimes it seems harsh, or overly sarcastic but all in all they just want to help you here.
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@scottalanmiller said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@JaredBusch said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
And you have to be updated anyway or the unit might not even work.
This piece is completely untrue. there is absolutely nothing wrong with EdgeOS 1.2 from a basic routing point of view.
Is that true for every possible patch level between 1.2 and now, though? I'm not suggesting that "old is bad", only that there is always a risk with an old, unknown version that it's one that had to be patched for functionality reasons.
Of course there were enhancements at ever turn. But the basic router stack in 1.2.0 was solid. That version was basically nothing more than the Vyatta fork and basic customization for the hardware.
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@cteneyck said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller SO are you saying i should return the one I have and get the edgerouter x?
NO. Not at all. I'm saying that if you are going to be learning the level of router maintenance that you want to learn, you need a backup. Do your learning on a second device rather than on the one that cuts you off from the Internet while working on it. Just like if I'm going to learn how to install Windows, I don't want to do it on my only PC, I want to learn on a second one so that I can research and download tools and such while the install is going on.
I'm just saying that for $65 you could have a second, different, but nearly identical device and be able to comfortably learn command line and manual configuration changes without putting your own access at risk.
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@JaredBusch said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@JaredBusch said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller for the record he is on 1.2.0, a default old stock ERL.
Thanks, I could not find it in the screenshots. That's older than I expected. I was guessing more like 1.4. When did the wizards start, was that 1.5?
The wizards were a feature of the 1.3.0 release on October 15, 2013.
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Updates-Blog/EdgeMax-software-release-v1-3-0/ba-p/591711
Ah, okay. Thanks.
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@scottalanmiller said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
I would recommend picking up an EdgeRouter X for $65 as well. Do your learning on a box that doesn't cut you offline and cause you to move into an emergency state.
WTF are you saying here? The ERL and the ERX are exactly the same in basic functionality. Nothing the ERL does is any different than the ERX from a basic point of view. Neither will cut off or not cut off any differently than they other.
They both come out of the box with 192.168.1.1 set on eth0 statically.
The only benefit to the ERX is that it has a switch chip built in. @cteneyck does not need that as he has a switch.
In fact the ERX does not have an accessible console port. So someone learning like this will likely need to use that feature that the ERL has sooner than not. I know I most certainly had to when I first start tinkering with the ERL.
Edit @scottalanmiller clarified what he meant by cut off in a followup post.
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@scottalanmiller oh okay. I understand. I will in the future, budget is currently tight. didnt have much of an option. I just moved to this place and had to get my own router so i just got a decent one and am trying to get it up
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@cteneyck said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller oh okay. I understand. I will in the future, budget is currently tight. didnt have much of an option. I just moved to this place and had to get my own router so i just got a decent one and am trying to get it up
It's purely up to you, it's not a technical thing, just how to do router learning when you want to do advanced things and might need to go offline while doing it. Nothing scarier (to me) than the thing that you are working on being the thing that keeps you from getting additional help resources.
Getting the unit that you have working shouldn't be bad. While at work, get the latest update downloaded from UBNT and have it on a USB stick to deploy to the router when you get home.
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@scottalanmiller Will do. Ill let you know how it goes later. Ill try to find a wizard as well.
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@cteneyck said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
@scottalanmiller Will do. Ill let you know how it goes later. Ill try to find a wizard as well.
Once you update, the wizard is very in your face.
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This thread confused me. Why isn't he just factory resetting it and starting from scratch? You get the internet up and running then download the firmware update + install it. Once that completes you can start setting up your VLANs. Or did I miss a crucial post or something
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@wirestyle22 said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
This thread confused me. Why isn't he just factory resetting it and starting from scratch? You get the internet up and running then download the firmware update + install it. Once that completes you can start setting up your VLANs. Or did I miss a crucial post or something
He's not at home right now is a key factor.
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@cteneyck The wizard will set eth0 as your WAN, and you will have options to setup eth1 as a LAN as well as eth2 as a second LAN and turn on the default firewall.
You will want to use the WAN+2LAN2 wizard.
Setup the WAN appropriately for your situation. DHCP in my case.
Do not enable bridging. It does nothing but slow down the router's preformance. Not that a home office would notice.
eth1 will be your LAN, configure as desired.
eth2 will something you can setup later. ignore it for now.
replace the default user
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As a side note unrelated to the actual setup: Anytime I have to setup a VLAN (which is rare honestly) I map out the ports I want on each switch and have ranges labeled for specific purposes. If printers are on VLAN 91, then that applies to Ports 40-48, etc. It really helps you locate things faster when you are in a pinch. I also have different colored cat5e cables for each type of device in my closet. Purple is Pyxis. Red is video. Grey is PC. Green is printer. Etc. Organization is key when networking imo.
This is another thing I need to do here. Unfortunately none of the cabling is labeled here. It's insanity.
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@wirestyle22 said in TP SG108PE + Ubiquiti Edge Router:
This thread confused me. Why isn't he just factory resetting it and starting from scratch? You get the internet up and running then download the firmware update + install it. Once that completes you can start setting up your VLANs. Or did I miss a crucial post or something
You missed the part where he plugged in original firmware and never even looked at upgrading it first.
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UPDATE:
This is just a copy and paste from my message to SAM btwI got the firmware updated on all my devices and I got my network up. Not like I want though.
So I had it working with VLANS(as in DHCP, DNS, and routing were working), but then i had issues because my AP (10.0.10.2) couldnt connect to the desk(which is the wireless controller) which is 10.0.20.2
It had something to do with L3 integration on the AP, and I spent 9 hours on the support with Ubiquiti. They basically told me to wait for the next patch for the L3 support.
So i had to remove my vlans and just have a flat network. :((((
So with tagging vlans, i have a question:
the ports you tag on are the "trunks" in cisco terms?On my switch, what i did is i tagged ports 1, and 8
1 is the AP, and then 8 is the switch->router port
I did this on both vlan 10 and vlan 20
this makes it so that if vlan 20 traffic goes to the wireless it will actually work correct?I have a TPLink SG108PE.
It can do 802.1Q Vlanning. I have 8 ports and you can assign a PVID per port, and also assign which ports are tagged and untagged.Port 1 goes to my AP, so it will be be a "trunk" in cisco terms.
Port 8 goes to the router, so it will be to be a "trunk"Ports 3-7 will be vlan 20, and
port 2 will be 10Wired is vlan 20
wireless is vlan 10Am I correct in that ports 1 and 8 need to be tagged for both vlan 10 and 20, and that they are untagged for 2-7?
Am I correct in that ports 3-7 will have a PVID of 20, and port 2 will have a PVID of 10?
Am i correct in that ports 1 and 8 will have a PVID of 1 (the default)?
