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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      Should have gone hosted... I would still see these problems but at least people could bring their phones somewhere else to use them.

      Sorry that it has to be BUT.... great example use case for where hosted can protect you 🙂

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        Should have gone hosted... I would still see these problems but at least people could bring their phones somewhere else to use them.

        Sorry that it has to be BUT.... great example use case for where hosted can protect you 🙂

        I would have done it originally but I couldn't get the numbers from anywhere else and until ~3 days prior to the go live date it was going to be over a PRI.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Considering my internet bandwidth (10/10) NTG just suggested that I go locally hosted for my PBX.

          How many phones do you have @coliver, how often are they used for internal to internal calling? and what size pipe to the internet?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @coliver
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            @coliver said:

            @Dashrender said:

            I think I agree with Scott.. I wonder if you have a failing switch. Can you replace it.. or for starters.. move the meraki to a different port on that switch?

            Switch? The PBX is directly connected (ok it is going through a hyper-v virtual switch but it is the only on it) to the Meraki firewall which is our internet gateway.

            At the suggestion of NTG support I directly connected the PBX server to the internet (which is a bit of a chore here) and there was no packet loss and ping/response times were marginally better. I forgot to grab a screen shot of it though.

            That pretty much means it is the firewall correct?

            Oh yeah, well in that case, it's definitely sounding like the firewall - but I thought you swapped the firewall yesterday and it made no difference?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Well before jumping to that (hopefully correct) solution, have you tested calls to ensure that packet loss is correlating to bad phone calls?

              I've been testing calls for the last 20 minutes, just my phone to my cell phone. Watching a ping from the pbx to the SIP Trunk. When the sequence numbers skip I get a drop out in voice.

              A small sample size, but there is a correlation.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                And one more thing, I connected my phone to a testing PBX we have in NC, this is connected over the VPN (so over the Meraki) calling in and out over this line also has the same issues.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  But you removed the Meraki, put in a Ubiquiti, and had the same issues? That's the part that is confusing me.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    But you removed the Meraki, put in a Ubiquiti, and had the same issues? That's the part that is confusing me.

                    I can't think of anything else that it could be at this point in time. Everything (at least from what I am seeing) is pointing to the Meraki device as the culprit. Especially since I've factored out all the other networking devices in the chain, even my phone is directly connected to the Meraki.

                    I'm going to try and get someone to help me configure the Ubiquiti device, I must have made a configuration error when I originally implemented it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Sounds like a plan. For it to be the Meraki is the one thing that would not be surprising.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by coliver

                        It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          That's because you have RTP. Each direction is unrelated to the other. So the stream of your voice and the stream of their voice are just two unidirectional streams that don't know about each other. So something causing them to fail would not necessarily impact you and vice versa.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            That's because you have RTP. Each direction is unrelated to the other. So the stream of your voice and the stream of their voice are just two unidirectional streams that don't know about each other. So something causing them to fail would not necessarily impact you and vice versa.

                            Yep, I found it interesting that RTP is only being affected one way regardless of packet loss.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                              Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                              I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                That's because you have RTP. Each direction is unrelated to the other. So the stream of your voice and the stream of their voice are just two unidirectional streams that don't know about each other. So something causing them to fail would not necessarily impact you and vice versa.

                                Yep, I found it interesting that RTP is only being affected one way regardless of packet loss.

                                Typically packet loss is one directional. When a ping fails, normally either the ping makes it out but can't return. Or it doesn't make it out but it could have returned. For both directions to fail (when the entire connection is not dead) is unlikely.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                                  Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                                  I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

                                  Does it cut in and out, or just die?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                                    Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                                    I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

                                    Does it cut in and out, or just die?

                                    Cuts in and out, exactly like @coliver's situation. Frankly considering C@C and g-voice, I'm surprised it works as well as it does.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                                      Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                                      I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

                                      Does it cut in and out, or just die?

                                      Cuts in and out, exactly like @coliver's situation. Frankly considering C@C and g-voice, I'm surprised it works as well as it does.

                                      I've done freebpx on a raspberry Pi with google voice and never had issues with it. Likely it's all C@C issues.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        It seems that it is only audio going out not audio coming in. During the periods of packet loss I can still hear the 2nd person (or myself if it is my cell phone) talking but I can't talk to them. Our Network Extender and the Vitelity SIP trunk are also experiencing the same thing.

                                        Interesting. This is a similar problem I'm having with my C@C hosted FPBX and G-Voice sample box, and I'm behind a SonicWall NSA 2400.
                                        I can hear the outside caller, but they get blips when they can't hear me.

                                        Does it cut in and out, or just die?

                                        Cuts in and out, exactly like @coliver's situation. Frankly considering C@C and g-voice, I'm surprised it works as well as it does.

                                        I've done freebpx on a raspberry Pi with google voice and never had issues with it. Likely it's all C@C issues.

                                        Damn, nice - I really need to do this at home!

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
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                                          And right around 4:00pm everything goes back to normal. 2015-06-03 16_01_00-root@pbx_~.png

                                          2015-06-03 16_03_49-Meraki Dashboard - SSI - Delhi.png

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            I assume this is because people are going home or slacking off as they prepare to?

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