Interview at IBM Tommorrow(26-Apr-2015)
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@scottalanmiller said:
I have mailed the Manager at IBM,Bangalore and they dont even replied after I have mailed her -
@Lakshmana said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have mailed the Manager at IBM,Bangalore and they dont even replied after I have mailed herNot surprising. This is some scam.
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@thecreativeone91 If it was scam,why the manager said that I will arrange for the meeting for that process of selection
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@Lakshmana said:
@thecreativeone91 If it was scam,why the manager said that I will arrange for the meeting for that process of selection
They lied to you? Seems like they wanted to get your information for some reason probably credit scam or hiring scam.
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@Lakshmana said:
@thecreativeone91 If it was scam,why the manager said that I will arrange for the meeting for that process of selection
Who's the manager? What is the contact information for the manager?
a Scamer will try to make it seem semi-plausible, but it never is. People get scammed by wanting something that's to good to be true so they will try it anyway.
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@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the exam -
@Lakshmana said:
@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the examWhat was the URL? And where were you (DNS could be poisoned)
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@Lakshmana said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I have mailed the Manager at IBM,Bangalore and they dont even replied after I have mailed herAs expected.
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@Lakshmana said:
@thecreativeone91 If it was scam,why the manager said that I will arrange for the meeting for that process of selection
Because that IS the scam!
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@coliver said:
@Lakshmana said:
@thecreativeone91 If it was scam,why the manager said that I will arrange for the meeting for that process of selection
They lied to you? Seems like they wanted to get your information for some reason probably credit scam or hiring scam.
Second time this has happened in two weeks. Should not be so surprising now.
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@Lakshmana said:
@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the examFrom home? It was definitely IBM.com and you did it from your own computer?
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@Lakshmana said:
@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the examFrom a trusted computer or one at an "exam center"? I did a cursory search for IBM written assessment. The questions and the answers for the Indian exam can be easily found online. It wouldn't be hard to spoof an "official" IBM website. Although at that point why go through the effort there are much easier ways to get that type of information.
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@coliver said:
@Lakshmana said:
@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the examFrom a trusted computer or one at an "exam center"? I did a cursory search for IBM written assessment. The questions and the answers for the Indian exam can be easily found online. It wouldn't be hard to spoof an "official" IBM website. Although at that point why go through the effort there are much easier was to get that type of information.
If they are doing this on scale, and likely they are, they want to be convincing because they get a better hit ration and their risk of being discovered (by the authorities, by IBM, etc.) is far lower. They need plausible deniability to pull it off. How granted, doing that in India is much easier than in the US. Few of us would have fallen for this one here, but even here many would have. I've certainly been tricked before.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Lakshmana said:
@coliver said:
I logged into the IBM website only for writing the examFrom a trusted computer or one at an "exam center"? I did a cursory search for IBM written assessment. The questions and the answers for the Indian exam can be easily found online. It wouldn't be hard to spoof an "official" IBM website. Although at that point why go through the effort there are much easier was to get that type of information.
If they are doing this on scale, and likely they are, they want to be convincing because they get a better hit ration and their risk of being discovered (by the authorities, by IBM, etc.) is far lower. They need plausible deniability to pull it off. How granted, doing that in India is much easier than in the US. Few of us would have fallen for this one here, but even here many would have. I've certainly been tricked before.
So the "testing" is just a means to appear legit?
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@coliver said:
So the "testing" is just a means to appear legit?
Possibly. Or the testing is actually part of the scam. Scams are not only for ID and data. Lots of scams are for harvesting staff in order to sell them later. This is far more common in the US than ID theft. The scams are to get people to quit their jobs, become desperate for work and then sell them to companies at discount rates after having "strung them along" with a fake job.
Sounds complicated and weird. But once you've seen it in action it is very effective and can make them a fortune. Teksystems does this in the US in some offices (Connecticut for example.) They'll make you a fake offer somewhere, get you to drop everything for it, wait until your start date, say it fell through or is on hold, and they'll keep you "available" while they either try to get the actual job at a lower rate and/or find other work that you will accept since you are now out of work and in need of a job.
Had this happen to my tenant in NYC THIS MORNING actually (not with Teksystems, with someone representing GE Capital in Connecticut.) It's super common, especially when relocation is involved.
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I'm suprised that kind of stuff isn't illegal here in the stats... and if it is, more people need to know about it!
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@dafyre said:
I'm suprised that kind of stuff isn't illegal here in the stats... and if it is, more people need to know about it!
Most states are at will employment so, a job offer isn't a binding contract.
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@dafyre said:
I'm suprised that kind of stuff isn't illegal here in the stats... and if it is, more people need to know about it!
Oh it's illegal, of course, but it is difficult and expensive to prove fraud. And people without jobs are rarely the people to sue you, especially when you might have a job for them.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Most states are at will employment so, a job offer isn't a binding contract.
At will does not do what people think that it does. At will cannot override federal employment law or "good faith." Fraud is fraud. At will applies to nearly all states and means almost nothing. You cannot attempt to hurt someone through a job offer.
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