Starting a job search
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The problem with LI is that it is in-discriminant contact. Maybe you can turn on that "open to being contacted" option, but without it, you are still flooded with spam communications.
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
The problem with LI is that it is in-discriminant contact. Maybe you can turn on that "open to being contacted" option, but without it, you are still flooded with spam communications.
Recruiters have to pay for premium before they can contact you. If someone is a connection (that you accepted), they can contact you for free.
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
I have had a much better success with legit recruiters on LI then any other platform by far.
So far it's been horrible for me. Loads of scammy crap, sometimes from LinkedIn itself. I'm to a point where any contact on LI = spam, the nature of coming from there to me means it isn't legit.
Did you just accept anyone as connections? Because otherwise they cant contact you.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
I have had a much better success with legit recruiters on LI then any other platform by far.
So far it's been horrible for me. Loads of scammy crap, sometimes from LinkedIn itself. I'm to a point where any contact on LI = spam, the nature of coming from there to me means it isn't legit.
Did you just accept anyone as connections? Because otherwise they cant contact you.
Generally, because of the nature of being me, I have no idea who I might know or not, and legit recruiters looking to connect like LinkedIn is claimed to be for, is perfectly fine - and lots of them do that, connect and never harass me.
I have loads claim to be business people and then try to do sales or something. I report everyone, but it's such a spam heavy platform with apparently very little filtering.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Recruiters have to pay for premium before they can contact you.
This is what makes LI so bad... "pay to spam" is a terrible, terrible business model. It means anyone contacting you is a scumbag because they paid for the right to bypass the spam filters!
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
Now if someone on LinkedIn would actually use your location or location preferences, it might actually become useful.
I have had a much better success with legit recruiters on LI then any other platform by far.
So far it's been horrible for me. Loads of scammy crap, sometimes from LinkedIn itself. I'm to a point where any contact on LI = spam, the nature of coming from there to me means it isn't legit.
Did you just accept anyone as connections? Because otherwise they cant contact you.
Generally, because of the nature of being me, I have no idea who I might know or not, and legit recruiters looking to connect like LinkedIn is claimed to be for, is perfectly fine - and lots of them do that, connect and never harass me.
I have loads claim to be business people and then try to do sales or something. I report everyone, but it's such a spam heavy platform with apparently very little filtering.
So it works like this :
Filtering connections is on you. So there is no pay wall if someone sends you a request and you accept. It's your job to take 10 seconds to look at their profile and see if they are legit.
If they are not a connection, they can send you a paid request which actually cuts down on spam. You won't get messages about jobs in Timbuktu as they are limited to how many people they can message. It makes them choose people to that may be a better fit
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Messages are $4 each for the lite plan. Scammers can't afford that.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Messages are $4 each for the lite plan. Scammers can't afford that.
Anyone paying that is a scammer. That it exists and is used proves that paying to spam pays off. It might way off way, way more for LinkedIn than for anyone else, but that people keep doing it, proves that paying to spam is seen as worthwhile.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Filtering connections is on you. So there is no pay wall if someone sends you a request and you accept. It's your job to take 10 seconds to look at their profile and see if they are legit.
Doesn't really work that way. No way to look at a profile and know who is and isn't legit. I do look at the profiles, but since LI has no authentication system, there is no way to know. Heck, tons of people try to add me while claiming to work for me!
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
If they are not a connection, they can send you a paid request which actually cuts down on spam. You won't get messages about jobs in Timbuktu as they are limited to how many people they can message. It makes them choose people to that may be a better fit
This doesn't add up, since people do get through to me this way, too, and never, ever is it for a local job or one that I'd consider the location. So this theory doesn't make sense, no one getting through to me, at least, is doing so and considering the location.
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Also, LinkedIn, AFAIK, doesn't let you specify job locations. If it does, I'd love to know where as that would make it actually kinda useful, but rather only shows where you live or list yourself. So if, for example, you want to look at jobs in Berlin or Paris, I think you can only list one or the other and hope recruiters pay attention to that, which makes no sense.
On mine I only list the city and zip that I live in. But every recruiter is looking for NYC or Seattle. Never something near me.
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Have you actually used LI in the past year? Because none of what you're saying is making any sense.
Of course you set your zip code, which gives your location. Everyone's profile has a location
Any connection request allows you to view their profile before accepting. It does show a limited view, but that bore shows their name, location, job title, and job history. Some Indian kid who's 17 and says IT training associate, is going to try to sell you training. You just don't accept them.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Have you actually used LI in the past year? Because none of what you're saying is making any sense.
All the time, including today.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Of course you set your zip code, which gives your location. Everyone's profile has a location
Right, and THAT is what results in all recruiters doing things that aren't local. My zip code doesn't seem to make anything change with recruiters.
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@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Any connection request allows you to view their profile before accepting. It does show a limited view, but that bore shows their name, location, job title, and job history. Some Indian kid who's 17 and says IT training associate, is going to try to sell you training. You just don't accept them
Problem is it is people with US companies and lots of experience that connect and then 10% of them turn out to be scamming sales people. But tons of them are legit just IT or business people making connections.
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@larsen161 said in Starting a job search:
LinkedIn has been hugely successful for me. I've had recruiters from Google, Facebook, Amazon, F5 and may others reach out to me directly for roles. Turn on your setting Let recruiters know you’re open to opportunities and hopefully that should trigger a bunch of opportunities.
I did that, set as casually looking. Does setting as actively looking make a difference?
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My biggest annoyance so far is that LinkedIn itself shows me jobs for stuff like Walmart Associate
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@flaxking said in Starting a job search:
My biggest annoyance so far is that LinkedIn itself shows me jobs for stuff like Walmart Associate
Do you have the word "associate" in your resume?
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Messages are $4 each for the lite plan. Scammers can't afford that.
Anyone paying that is a scammer. That it exists and is used proves that paying to spam pays off. It might way off way, way more for LinkedIn than for anyone else, but that people keep doing it, proves that paying to spam is seen as worthwhile.
How are they scamming and how is what their dojng profitable enough to make it with $4 a shot?
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@scottalanmiller said in Starting a job search:
@IRJ said in Starting a job search:
Of course you set your zip code, which gives your location. Everyone's profile has a location
Right, and THAT is what results in all recruiters doing things that aren't local. My zip code doesn't seem to make anything change with recruiters.
How is profitable for them to pay $4 for just a lead for someone non local. Unless you are accepting these people as connections
