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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksaj said:

      And the fake reviews serve to do nothing but help enhance that lie by adding appeared validity to their statements.

      The way that you described them, there is nothing fake about them. You might not like the review system, I sure don't, but the vendor and the reviewers are completely legit as you are describing their behaviour.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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        @thanksaj said:

        Not too many people do reviews. The average person has done 10 or fewer reviews, and I mean out of the people who have posted on 10 or more different threads. People post because they enjoy conversation, or have a question. People don't get the same feeling/result from a review. They either do it out of the goodness of their heart or cause they are pissed at how bad a product is.

        One could say that that skews the reviews just as much. What makes one type of review more or less legitimate than another? It's anonymous, worthless reviews with no oversight, no weighting and very little visibility. Get upset that the system sucks, try to change it, move on, whatever. But don't get upset with innocent parties using the system as intended.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @thanksaj said:

          And the fake reviews serve to do nothing but help enhance that lie by adding appeared validity to their statements.

          The way that you described them, there is nothing fake about them. You might not like the review system, I sure don't, but the vendor and the reviewers are completely legit as you are describing their behaviour.

          I find it ethically wrong to ask them to join the website simply to write reviews and then boast about all the Spiceheads that use Quorum and love it. That's Quorum gaming the system.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @thanksaj said:

            Not too many people do reviews. The average person has done 10 or fewer reviews, and I mean out of the people who have posted on 10 or more different threads. People post because they enjoy conversation, or have a question. People don't get the same feeling/result from a review. They either do it out of the goodness of their heart or cause they are pissed at how bad a product is.

            One could say that that skews the reviews just as much. What makes one type of review more or less legitimate than another? It's anonymous, worthless reviews with no oversight, no weighting and very little visibility. Get upset that the system sucks, try to change it, move on, whatever. But don't get upset with innocent parties using the system as intended.

            The system is broken, I agree.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom
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              @scottalanmiller The system is broken, but then again, so is SW.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                last edited by

                @thanksaj said:

                I find it ethically wrong to ask them to join the website simply to write reviews and then boast about all the Spiceheads that use Quorum and love it. That's Quorum gaming the system.

                The system is designed as a game. Gaming it is the intended behaviour. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. If you don't like the rules of the game, you have to either stop playing or change the rules. Don't be upset that people are willing to play it as is.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @thanksaj said:

                  I find it ethically wrong to ask them to join the website simply to write reviews and then boast about all the Spiceheads that use Quorum and love it. That's Quorum gaming the system.

                  The system is designed as a game. Gaming it is the intended behaviour. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. If you don't like the rules of the game, you have to either stop playing or change the rules. Don't be upset that people are willing to play it as is.

                  I was just going to post something like this... but that quick typing thing wins out every time.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
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                    The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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                      @thanksaj said:

                      The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                      huh?

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said:

                        @thanksaj said:

                        The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                        huh?

                        SW is the game.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksaj said:

                          @IRJ said:

                          @thanksaj said:

                          The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                          huh?

                          SW is the game.

                          Ok. I missed SAMs post

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said:

                            @thanksaj said:

                            @IRJ said:

                            @thanksaj said:

                            The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                            huh?

                            SW is the game.

                            Ok. I missed SAMs post

                            It annoys me that when it shows you have an unread post in a thread, it takes you to the NEWEST post, not where you last left off. That part is a bit annoying, especially when they are on different pages.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @thanksajdotcom
                              last edited by

                              @thanksaj said:

                              @IRJ said:

                              @thanksaj said:

                              @IRJ said:

                              @thanksaj said:

                              The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                              huh?

                              SW is the game.

                              Ok. I missed SAMs post

                              It annoys me that when it shows you have an unread post in a thread, it takes you to the NEWEST post, not where you last left off. That part is a bit annoying, especially when they are on different pages.

                              Yeah, I agree

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksaj said:

                                The game has bugs in it, and the current devs don't seem to care. We need new devs!

                                Devs have little to nothing to do with it. They don't make decisions like this. Blame the committee that decides where to build a bridge, not the civil engineer who makes sure it doesn't fall down. A dev doesn't get any say in how the system works. That's not the job of a developer.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksaj said:

                                  It annoys me that when it shows you have an unread post in a thread, it takes you to the NEWEST post, not where you last left off. That part is a bit annoying, especially when they are on different pages.

                                  Mine doesn't do that.

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thanksaj said:

                                    It annoys me that when it shows you have an unread post in a thread, it takes you to the NEWEST post, not where you last left off. That part is a bit annoying, especially when they are on different pages.

                                    Mine doesn't do that.

                                    What browser do you use?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
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                                      Wait you guys have pages? I just have one long stream of posts (or are we talking about the SW forums?)

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @coliver
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                                        @coliver said:

                                        Wait you guys have pages? I just have one long stream of posts (or are we talking about the SW forums?)

                                        I set mine to do pages

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          Wait you guys have pages? I just have one long stream of posts (or are we talking about the SW forums?)

                                          I was talking about ML in my thing about it jumping to the newest post instead of where I left off.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @IRJ said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            Wait you guys have pages? I just have one long stream of posts (or are we talking about the SW forums?)

                                            I set mine to do pages

                                            Yeah, I have pages too.

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