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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @IRJ
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      @irj said in WSUS Help:

      better classification of updates,

      You can already get really granular as is...

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @IRJ
        last edited by

        @irj said in WSUS Help:

        web interface

        WAC

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @IRJ
          last edited by

          @irj said in WSUS Help:

          a more scalable infrastructure

          You can scale WSUS to many thousands of systems and many WSUS servers globally. Are you over the limit?

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @IRJ
            last edited by

            @irj said in WSUS Help:

            deployment options

            Like what? WSUS deploys them great, and Win10 does it peer to peer style with options to turn it off. What more do you need?

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

              @irj said in WSUS Help:

              deployment options

              Like what? WSUS deploys them great, and Win10 does it peer to peer style with options to turn it off. What more do you need?

              Have you never used another patch solution?

              You can tell me how great internet explorer is all day and about every feature it has. It sounds great on paper, but once you use another browser, you'll never use IE again.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                @irj said in WSUS Help:

                deployment options

                Like what? WSUS deploys them great, and Win10 does it peer to peer style with options to turn it off. What more do you need?

                To not have the cost and overhead of WSUS, to not have the reliability issues, to not have the sprawl and maintenance tasks.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @irj said in WSUS Help:

                  @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                  @irj said in WSUS Help:

                  deployment options

                  Like what? WSUS deploys them great, and Win10 does it peer to peer style with options to turn it off. What more do you need?

                  Have you never used another patch solution?

                  You can tell me how great internet explorer is all day and about every feature it has. It sounds great on paper, but once you use another browser, you'll never use IE again.

                  This kind of sums it up. If WSUS was the ONLY way, then sure. But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else". For those that need more, there are options. But most WSUS deployments are just attempting to solve problems that don't exist, while introducing loads of new ones.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                    @irj said in WSUS Help:

                    Being able to manage update groups without group policy

                    You can, local policy on non domain members works well.

                    This one bothers me ALOT. Why do they have to be controlled by policies, period? Why cant you create a collection from WSUS by DNS name or IP? That really doesnt make sense to me.

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @irj said in WSUS Help:

                      @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                      @irj said in WSUS Help:

                      Being able to manage update groups without group policy

                      You can, local policy on non domain members works well.

                      This one bothers me ALOT. Why do they have to be controlled by policies, period? Why cant you create a collection from WSUS by DNS name or IP? That really doesnt make sense to me.

                      Because Microsoft likes to tie everything together.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                        But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                        This is what I've said a few times lately.

                        But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                          @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                          But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                          This is what I've said a few times lately.

                          But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                          Why do you "have" to use it?

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                            @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                            @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                            But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                            This is what I've said a few times lately.

                            But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                            Why do you "have" to use it?

                            Because we use Windows 10 and without WSUS, we can't guarantee stability of production systems, equipment, and user PCs.

                            We don't use Enterprise Win10, so we need WSUS. Probably need it anyways, but still.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                              @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                              @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                              @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                              But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                              This is what I've said a few times lately.

                              But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                              Why do you "have" to use it?

                              Because we use Windows 10 and without WSUS, we can't guarantee stability of production systems, equipment, and user PCs.

                              We don't use Enterprise Win10, so we need WSUS. Probably need it anyways, but still.

                              Can you guarantee stability regardless? What about WSUS are you using to ensure that stability?

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                                This is what I've said a few times lately.

                                But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                                Why do you "have" to use it?

                                Because we use Windows 10 and without WSUS, we can't guarantee stability of production systems, equipment, and user PCs.

                                We don't use Enterprise Win10, so we need WSUS. Probably need it anyways, but still.

                                Can you guarantee stability regardless? What about WSUS are you using to ensure that stability?

                                Controlled update delivery to all Windows and Microsoft devices.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                  @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                  @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                  But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                                  This is what I've said a few times lately.

                                  But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                                  Why do you "have" to use it?

                                  Because we use Windows 10 and without WSUS, we can't guarantee stability of production systems, equipment, and user PCs.

                                  We don't use Enterprise Win10, so we need WSUS. Probably need it anyways, but still.

                                  Can you guarantee stability regardless? What about WSUS are you using to ensure that stability?

                                  Controlled update delivery to all Windows and Microsoft devices.

                                  How much is that actually beneficial, though? There are extreme cases where you need this, but they are rare. What updates are you holding back that need WSUS and are beneficial to hold back?

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                    @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                    @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                    @obsolesce said in WSUS Help:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in WSUS Help:

                                    But often the best option is just "remove WSUS" and "do nothing else".

                                    This is what I've said a few times lately.

                                    But because I have to use WSUS, it's working well.

                                    Why do you "have" to use it?

                                    Because we use Windows 10 and without WSUS, we can't guarantee stability of production systems, equipment, and user PCs.

                                    We don't use Enterprise Win10, so we need WSUS. Probably need it anyways, but still.

                                    Can you guarantee stability regardless? What about WSUS are you using to ensure that stability?

                                    Controlled update delivery to all Windows and Microsoft devices.

                                    How much is that actually beneficial, though? There are extreme cases where you need this, but they are rare. What updates are you holding back that need WSUS and are beneficial to hold back?

                                    It's not necessarily the updates themselves, it's a combination of that and being able to control when all devices reboot after updates are installed.

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                                    • siringoS
                                      siringo
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                                      Eeek, i've lost control of my thread!

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @siringo
                                        last edited by

                                        @siringo said in WSUS Help:

                                        Eeek, i've lost control of my thread!

                                        It would be very odd for a conversation in real life to stay confined to one very specific topic or idea, why does everyone assume that an online forum would be any different from real life discussions?

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                                        • nadnerBN
                                          nadnerB @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in WSUS Help:

                                          @siringo said in WSUS Help:

                                          Eeek, i've lost control of my thread!

                                          It would be very odd for a conversation in real life to stay confined to one very specific topic or idea, why does everyone assume that an online forum would be any different from real life discussions?

                                          Because real life is not text based. 😉
                                          Can you imagine if we only had the WAYDRN thread on ML and everything happened in that one thread?
                                           
                                           
                                          When you come to a fork in the road, wash it before you eat with it.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @nadnerB
                                            last edited by

                                            @nadnerb said in WSUS Help:

                                            @travisdh1 said in WSUS Help:

                                            @siringo said in WSUS Help:

                                            Eeek, i've lost control of my thread!

                                            It would be very odd for a conversation in real life to stay confined to one very specific topic or idea, why does everyone assume that an online forum would be any different from real life discussions?

                                            Because real life is not text based. 😉

                                            You apparently don't live in my world. Everything I can feasibly convert to it is text based!

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