Is JBOD Considered a Type of RAID?
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OK Scott, that makes sense.. how do you mange the DAS shelf?
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@thanksaj said:
He's one of the best we have on this product for Tier II. I was just surprised at the blatant ignorance on the basic term. Basically, that's what I don't want to become working proprietary software support. You get good at one or two products, but start losing your general IT grasps.
Is he even really IT? He might be, but there are people who just do application support for one thing. IT isn't what they do. Yeah, he's in a semi-IT department, but it is really fringe for IT (pure application support to the outside is not normally considered IT or just marginally IT.) But you can come from other directions to get to a position like that and you can leave and go to non-IT things. It's tangential to IT, but he is easily not an IT pro, just a support person and this is what he supports.
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@Dashrender said:
OK Scott, that makes sense.. how do you mange the DAS shelf?
A JBOD disk shelf is literally a pile of disks, nothing more. You attach them to whatever you want... HBA, RAID controller, whatever. And you treat them the same as any directly attached disk local or otherwise. JBOD shelves, to the computer, are not a thing. They are absolutely identical to internal disks in every way.
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@thanksaj said:
Most of the software my company sells was not made by them. They bought the company that produced it, they rebranded it, and now they train people to support it. So it's almost all secondhand training.
Technically, that means that the software WAS made by them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
OK Scott, that makes sense.. how do you mange the DAS shelf?
A JBOD disk shelf is literally a pile of disks, nothing more. You attach them to whatever you want... HBA, RAID controller, whatever. And you treat them the same as any directly attached disk local or otherwise. JBOD shelves, to the computer, are not a thing. They are absolutely identical to internal disks in every way.
I understand - but in the DAS storage people are talking about - you'd have to setup the RAID inside the chassis before presenting it to the HBA, so how do you do that?
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@Dashrender said:
I understand - but in the DAS storage people are talking about - you'd have to setup the RAID inside the chassis before presenting it to the HBA, so how do you do that?
OH! Well that's proprietary. Depends 100% on the unit. Mostly you get a big web interface to work from. Remember you are dealing with a full, logical device here with all the benefits of that being a computer in there. Drobo handles it by providing a client that you have to install on Windows, not as ideal as a web interface but they lack the horsepower for a web server (no really.) Netgear, Synology, Buffalo, Dell, HP, EMC, HDS, NetApp... all web and/or command line options.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
He's one of the best we have on this product for Tier II. I was just surprised at the blatant ignorance on the basic term. Basically, that's what I don't want to become working proprietary software support. You get good at one or two products, but start losing your general IT grasps.
Is he even really IT? He might be, but there are people who just do application support for one thing. IT isn't what they do. Yeah, he's in a semi-IT department, but it is really fringe for IT (pure application support to the outside is not normally considered IT or just marginally IT.) But you can come from other directions to get to a position like that and you can leave and go to non-IT things. It's tangential to IT, but he is easily not an IT pro, just a support person and this is what he supports.
He said he used to work in the service provider scene.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Most of the software my company sells was not made by them. They bought the company that produced it, they rebranded it, and now they train people to support it. So it's almost all secondhand training.
Technically, that means that the software WAS made by them.
We bought the company but, for example, this product that I'm learning, there are T1 and T2 people here in Plano, but not a single T3 or dev is here. They are all in Idaho. The breakdown in communication is so horrendously bad, it's not even funny. The problem is all the T3 and devs are pretty much from the original company before the buyout. They still want to do things the way they were done before. We're doing things our way. It's more a management fail than anything, but that's part of what happens when you absorb a company.
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@thanksaj not necessarily. Absorbing a company can go very well. Or not well. All depends on how well the process if overseen and managed. And how well the companies fit together, too.
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I am late to this one, but no, JBOD is most definitely not a form of RAID.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj not necessarily. Absorbing a company can go very well. Or not well. All depends on how well the process if overseen and managed. And how well the companies fit together, too.
This merger did not go well. At least not on the support end.
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That is like saying Raid is a type of backup.....
Sorry that I am late to the party, my bus broke down. -
@Texkonc said:
That is like saying Raid is a type of backup.....
Sorry that I am late to the party, my bus broke down.Thank you!
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@Texkonc said:
That is like saying Raid is a type of backup.....
Sorry that I am late to the party, my bus broke down.Whoa, Tex is here!
