Toshiba OCZ PCIe SSD Z-Drive 4500
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller I'm sure you have an explanation for that. Care to share?
No magic. It's just more solidly made. Spinning drives aren't hard to beat in reliability.
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So you're saying they are kinda like RAID controllers themselves? So reliable that you just don't worry about them? Just be prepared with your backups as you always should be.
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Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?
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@Dashrender said:
Are we there yet with Enterprise SSDs? would it be safe to do RAID 0 SSDs?
Enterprise SSD are extremely safe. Putting them in RAID 0 would remain reckless in most cases.
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Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?
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@Dashrender said:
Assuming you don't want to drop $16K for that OCZ, how do you go about getting a 2 TB single drive or larger? I've never understood has JOBD work, maybe that's the answer?
Big SSDs are starting to come on the market. PCIe super huge high end cards are the fastest and safest. They are the ones being designed around standalone use primarily.
With SAS and SATA attached lower cost drives you will typically be looking at using RAID still - but at far lower costs.
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I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.
In the end it's all relative.
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@Dashrender said:
I suppose the sites you're accustomed to working in are used to spending large dollars for fast arrays.
In the end it's all relative.
What makes the drive here interesting is that it could easily replace a 24 drive 15K array. It costs more but not tons more and uses far less power, is much, much faster, has less capacity but not by a ridiculous margin and fits into a smaller chassis which often reduces monthly rack costs.
Put it all together and even many SMBs might find it a potential solution.
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If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.
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@scottalanmiller said:
If you don't have a big database need, likely a PCIe SSD isn't for you. This is really for massive database acceleration primarily.
Agreed, I've never worked in situations that come even close to needing something like this.
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For a more normal SMB wanting a sweet database setup you would more likely get two SATA SSD in RAID 1 for under $600 and blow the doors off anything you've ever seen.
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@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
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So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.
Same here. Love them. NTG went to all SSD desktops and laptops years ago. Such a good thing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?
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@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
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I swapped a samsung evo 840 into my laptop and it SCREAMS!!!
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?
When you have specific support, longevity or performance needs that demand them.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.
I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.
