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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by Dashrender

      @Mike-Ralston, when you get this error in XenServer, are you booting from the XenServer install media?

      Can you grab a picture with your cell?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @Mike-Ralston, when you get this error in XenServer, are you booting from the XenServer install media?

        Can you grab a picture with your cell?

        That might help.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          Considering that UEFI is a full out OS just embedded in the hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if it could/did/does include Dell's OS install media to make it easier to install all the drivers, etc.

          But I still don't know what it means by Virtual Drive.

          That would wreak havoc with an unexpected OS, though.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            Considering that UEFI is a full out OS just embedded in the hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if it could/did/does include Dell's OS install media to make it easier to install all the drivers, etc.

            But I still don't know what it means by Virtual Drive.

            That would wreak havoc with an unexpected OS, though.

            It would only be invoked if you called for it - otherwise it just lies dormant.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender sure, I Just meant that as he called it for XenServer, it might have had problems just from that. It was probably expecting Windows.

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              • Mike RalstonM
                Mike Ralston @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender Virtual Drive - Using a USB as a Storage device. AKA, using not just as a 1-time boot media, but using it to effectively replace the HardDrive. @scottalanmiller Can I just toss in a HardDrive from a dead NTG machine? An 80gb will do fine if an 8gb USB will.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                  last edited by

                  @Mike-Ralston said:

                  @Dashrender Virtual Drive - Using a USB as a Storage device. AKA, using not just as a 1-time boot media, but using it to effectively replace the HardDrive. @scottalanmiller Can I just toss in a HardDrive from a dead NTG machine? An 80gb will do fine if an 8gb USB will.

                  If you can physically do so, then yes. Do you have a drive sled for that?

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                  • Mike RalstonM
                    Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller Nope, will just use a lower slot.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                      last edited by

                      @Mike-Ralston said:

                      @scottalanmiller Nope, will just use a lower slot.

                      Oh boy, good luck with that.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Mike Ralston
                        last edited by

                        @Mike-Ralston said:

                        @Dashrender Virtual Drive - Using a USB as a Storage device. AKA, using not just as a 1-time boot media, but using it to effectively replace the HardDrive. @scottalanmiller Can I just toss in a HardDrive from a dead NTG machine? An 80gb will do fine if an 8gb USB will.

                        If an 80 gig drive works, then it seems like XenServer simply doesn't support installing to USB drives.

                        Question - where were you planning on installing XenServer too?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          If an 80 gig drive works, then it seems like XenServer simply doesn't support installing to USB drives.

                          Question - where were you planning on installing XenServer too?

                          It does, this is a different issue.

                          http://beaukey.blogspot.com/2012/05/running-xenserver-from-usb-stick.html

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            If an 80 gig drive works, then it seems like XenServer simply doesn't support installing to USB drives.

                            Question - where were you planning on installing XenServer too?

                            It does, this is a different issue.

                            http://beaukey.blogspot.com/2012/05/running-xenserver-from-usb-stick.html

                            I mistyped - I meant it means XenServer probably doesn't support datastores on USB drives.

                            But really - it doesn't sound like he's even that far - @Mike-Ralston Is XenServer fully installed somewhere? or is the install itself what's failing?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              I mistyped - I meant it means XenServer probably doesn't support datastores on USB drives.

                              We aren't talking about datastores yet. This is just the base install. No one officially supports a datastore on USB. That could work, in theory, but would be a disaster in any real use case.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                But really - it doesn't sound like he's even that far - @Mike-Ralston Is XenServer fully installed somewhere? or is the install itself what's failing?

                                This is the installation. He's just trying to kick off the install and it can't even start - it gives that error before beginning.

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                                • Mike RalstonM
                                  Mike Ralston @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender The install itself is failing. And it still is, even with the hard-drive. That's to be expected, though, I loaded a harddrive into what's electrically either the 3rd or 9th slot. I can't get into the BIOS to change the RAID configuration, though.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mike-Ralston said:

                                    @Dashrender The install itself is failing. And it still is, even with the hard-drive. That's to be expected, though, I loaded a harddrive into what's electrically either the 3rd or 9th slot. I can't get into the BIOS to change the RAID configuration, though.

                                    The BIOS is still hosed? We can't move forward if the BIOS is bad.

                                    The slot that is used isn't a factor, but that you can't set up the RAID to put that drive online, is. Until it is setup in the RAID configuration, that drive is not exposed to any OS being installed. It simply doesn't exist as far as the system is concerned.

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                                    • Mike RalstonM
                                      Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller Well, it's after hours, and I still have more work for later tonight. I'll retrofit a caddy to put it in the correct slot in the morning, just for the sake of it. That doesn't work, I'll reflash the BIOS.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
                                        last edited by

                                        @Mike-Ralston said:

                                        @scottalanmiller Well, it's after hours, and I still have more work for later tonight. I'll retrofit a caddy to put it in the correct slot in the morning, just for the sake of it. That doesn't work, I'll reflash the BIOS.

                                        Slot won't matter. No slots are enabled until the RAID controller sets up the drives. Even if it was set up before, switching drives will disable that as it is a new drive setup. The BIOS must be reflashed.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          Any luck on the re flash?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            I doubt that he is awake yet.

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