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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
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      Houston police shoots man in chest and kills him for having his pants too low and standing in traffic.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda @mlnews
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        @mlnews Cops murder 3 people a day in the US. You are about 100 times more likely to be killed by a cop for no reason than a terrorist in the US.

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          scottalanmiller @momurda
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          @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @mlnews Cops murder 3 people a day in the US. You are about 100 times more likely to be killed by a cop for no reason than a terrorist in the US.

          That stat doesn't make sense. If cops kill so many people, they instill terror. So they can't be statistically separate from other terrorist organizations 😉

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            US is actually an essentially terrorist free country. Most are. Terrorists are scary, but not dangerous (statistically, obviously hanging out with one isn't smart.) Cops aren't scary, but are very dangerous.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller Perhaps. If you look at terror crimes in the US, the vast majority are carried out by white supremacist groups, not Islamic terrorists despite what Gmen and politicians would have you think. So the number of terrorists in the US probably much higher than other places if you include white nationalist groups. Something like 75% of terrorist acts/murders in the US are done by white nationalist shitbags. All this is ignoring the terrorists running state, local, and federal governments of course.

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                scottalanmiller @momurda
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                @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller Perhaps. If you look at terror crimes in the US, the vast majority are carried out by white supremacist groups, not Islamic terrorists despite what Gmen and politicians would have you think.

                That lines up with everything I see the government saying and implying. I never heard anything about Islamic groups in the US.

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                  scottalanmiller @momurda
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                  @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @scottalanmiller If you look at terror crimes in the US, the vast majority are carried out by white supremacist groups, not Islamic terrorists despite what Gmen and politicians would have you think. So the number of terrorists in the US probably much higher than other places if you include white nationalist groups. Something like 75% of terrorist acts/murders in the US are done by white nationalist shitbags.

                  If you look at it another way, which is interesting I think, white supremacist or Westboro type groups actually are those Islamic fundamentalist groups here in the US. If you look at behaviour and ideology, rather than name, they are essentially identical. They believe the same things, feel the same way, behave the same way. They really are the same groups. And just as how in the US those groups don't represent white or Christian values; those groups in the Middle East don't represent Semitic or Islamic values. In both cases, it is "fundamentalist" values, which is it's own political-religious group that is the antithesis of the religious it purports to be related to.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
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                    So in some ways, we have two radically different groups. But in other ways, they are exactly the same group. If you think of them in absolute terms, they don't share names, looks, or dress codes. But if you look at them in relative terms, they both act as a "filter" on their local traditions and cultures in exact same ways. So perspective can make them polar opposites; or one the branch of the other.

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                      NashBrydges @mlnews
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                      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Houston police shoots man in chest and kills him for having his pants too low and standing in traffic.

                      Just f'ing wow! What is this tendency to use deadly force at the least perceived provocation? That's a frightening thought that this could be anyone. Clearly I don't have all of the information to form a solid opinion but damn that seems extreme.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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                        @nashbrydges said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Houston police shoots man in chest and kills him for having his pants too low and standing in traffic.

                        Just f'ing wow! What is this tendency to use deadly force at the least perceived provocation? That's a frightening thought that this could be anyone. Clearly I don't have all of the information to form a solid opinion but damn that seems extreme.

                        And there is essentially no penalty for it. There is no ramifications if a cop uses deadly force. They just have no reason to not just willy nilly shoot anyone they want.

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                          Corey Feldman has been stabbed in Los Angeles following a series of death threats. He seems to be doing okay, but was hospitalized.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @nashbrydges said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Houston police shoots man in chest and kills him for having his pants too low and standing in traffic.

                            Just f'ing wow! What is this tendency to use deadly force at the least perceived provocation? That's a frightening thought that this could be anyone. Clearly I don't have all of the information to form a solid opinion but damn that seems extreme.

                            And there is essentially no penalty for it. There is no ramifications if a cop uses deadly force. They just have no reason to not just willy nilly shoot anyone they want.

                            Remember, kids: Cops can get away with anything they want, up to and including premeditated murder. Sure, they might have to relocate to a new area, with a fat severance package in hand, and take some cushy security job for the same pay as "punishment", but they still got away with murder.

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                              scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                              @rojoloco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @nashbrydges said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Houston police shoots man in chest and kills him for having his pants too low and standing in traffic.

                              Just f'ing wow! What is this tendency to use deadly force at the least perceived provocation? That's a frightening thought that this could be anyone. Clearly I don't have all of the information to form a solid opinion but damn that seems extreme.

                              And there is essentially no penalty for it. There is no ramifications if a cop uses deadly force. They just have no reason to not just willy nilly shoot anyone they want.

                              Remember, kids: Cops can get away with anything they want, up to and including premeditated murder. Sure, they might have to relocate to a new area, with a fat severance package in hand, and take some cushy security job for the same pay as "punishment", but they still got away with murder.

                              What's scary is that schools and stuff teach kids to go to cops for help. Cops are the most dangerous person that a kid could approach. Most criminals are literally safer than the cops!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
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                                Someone should do a study, in the case of an anonymous situation (e.g. you aren't a designated target ahead of time) is it safer to approach a cop or a criminal.

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                                  Ecuador cuts Internet access for Julian Assange They claim it was for the following tweet:

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                                    Their are black hats and white hats, their are good guys and bad guys, there are venomous snakes and harmless snakes, their are good public servants and bad public servants. Don't be so bitter and angry, its not good for you. It sounds like racism of a profession. I have family in law enforcement. The broad brush doesn't help anyone.

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                                    • NerdyDadN
                                      NerdyDad @popester
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                                      @popester said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      It sounds like racism of a profession

                                      The deputy was black as well as the now deceased civilian.

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                                        popester @NerdyDad
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                                        @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @popester said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        It sounds like racism of a profession

                                        The deputy was black as well as the now deceased civilian.

                                        My point was, classifying all law enforcement as evil reminds me of the talk I used to hear when i was a little kid. "All, (insert ethnic group) are such and such." Its sad.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @popester
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                                          @popester said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Their are black hats and white hats, their are good guys and bad guys, there are venomous snakes and harmless snakes, their are good public servants and bad public servants. Don't be so bitter and angry, its not good for you. It sounds like racism of a profession. I have family in law enforcement. The broad brush doesn't help anyone.

                                          Broad brushes are bad in some contexts. But there are time that they are important. For example, are all members of the mafia or a drug cartel bad? When does "doing something bad" as a representative of a group turn into a problem through "voluntary membership or association with a group."

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @popester said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Their are black hats and white hats, their are good guys and bad guys, there are venomous snakes and harmless snakes, their are good public servants and bad public servants. Don't be so bitter and angry, its not good for you. It sounds like racism of a profession. I have family in law enforcement. The broad brush doesn't help anyone.

                                            Broad brushes are bad in some contexts. But there are time that they are important. For example, are all members of the mafia or a drug cartel bad? When does "doing something bad" as a representative of a group turn into a problem through "voluntary membership or association with a group."

                                            1 bad apple spoils the whole bunch?

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