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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      It’s not capitalized, so no connection to the IIS software.

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        flaxking @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

        Reading the EULA more closing, it never refers to sharing. So this implies that you can use a desktop to serve up to 20 users over the Internet, but not internally.

        Ok, so that's the interesting part. I believe is it using it as an term to refer to protocols that at one time would only have been used over the internet and not over the LAN. Which seems to be how IIS uses the term, since it's not like they're trying to tell people not to use IIS over the LAN.

        But if we take it literally today, we can now use these protocols over the Internet, but not over the LAN.

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          scottalanmiller @flaxking
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          @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

          @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

          Reading the EULA more closing, it never refers to sharing. So this implies that you can use a desktop to serve up to 20 users over the Internet, but not internally.

          Ok, so that's the interesting part. I believe is it using it as an term to refer to protocols that at one time would only have been used over the internet and not over the LAN. Which seems to be how IIS uses the term, since it's not like they're trying to tell people not to use IIS over the LAN.

          But if we take it literally today, we can now use these protocols over the Internet, but not over the LAN.

          It’s a legal doxument. It’s always literal.

          Actually not using over a LAN isn’t that weird. That would mimic the server licensing model. What’s used on a LAN and what is used over the Internet are treated differently.

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

            The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

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              flaxking @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

              It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

              The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

              Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

                The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

                Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

                I think so. Feels nutty BUT I bet they could explain some logic.... like this is just enough for some development thing or to cover some specific use case but so generally useless that they lose no money.

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                  flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                  @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                  It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

                  The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

                  Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

                  I think so. Feels nutty BUT I bet they could explain some logic.... like this is just enough for some development thing or to cover some specific use case but so generally useless that they lose no money.

                  So you would have to expose to the internet but filter to your public IP in order to be compliant and use it as something functional.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                    @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                    @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                    It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

                    The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

                    Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

                    I think so. Feels nutty BUT I bet they could explain some logic.... like this is just enough for some development thing or to cover some specific use case but so generally useless that they lose no money.

                    So you would have to expose to the internet but filter to your public IP in order to be compliant and use it as something functional.

                    Right. Or just know that there were no internal users. The licensing doesn’t require a strict enforcement system.

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                      flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                      @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                      @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                      It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

                      The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

                      Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

                      I think so. Feels nutty BUT I bet they could explain some logic.... like this is just enough for some development thing or to cover some specific use case but so generally useless that they lose no money.

                      So you would have to expose to the internet but filter to your public IP in order to be compliant and use it as something functional.

                      Right. Or just know that there were no internal users. The licensing doesn’t require a strict enforcement system.

                      Oh, I meant because it's probably pretty much useless to have something public facing with only 20 connections available

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                        @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        @flaxking said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows Desktop Licensing: Cannot be used as a server:

                        It would mean that we could use any protocol over the Internet. There is no such thing as an Internet protocol. Things like HTTP and FTP were local LAN protocols first. The Internet made them popular and useful, of course.

                        The web refers to specific protocols at layer 7. But Internet refers only to the layer 3 + connected to the specific public network called the Internet.

                        Unless Microsoft tells us they're defining it differently, ^^^ this must be it

                        I think so. Feels nutty BUT I bet they could explain some logic.... like this is just enough for some development thing or to cover some specific use case but so generally useless that they lose no money.

                        So you would have to expose to the internet but filter to your public IP in order to be compliant and use it as something functional.

                        Right. Or just know that there were no internal users. The licensing doesn’t require a strict enforcement system.

                        Oh, I meant because it's probably pretty much useless to have something public facing with only 20 connections available

                        That’s what I meant to. It’s enough for like basic testing or a five person company to do something weird. But not enough for anything real.

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