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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      XenApp is an extension of Windows RDS, so it need RDS to function. It can show apps from Linux, but not run on Linux.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
        last edited by

        @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

        If I'm distributing applications that are running on a linux distribution, why would I want to purchase the proper licensing for a bunch of Windows Servers to do it? Gr!

        For the ICA protocol.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          ICA is the only reason you pay for XenApp. Since if you didn't want that, you'd have used RDS for cheaper. So it makes logical sense that if you are paying all that money for ICA, it applies to Windows and Linux workloads roughly equally.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

            ICA is the only reason you pay for XenApp. Since if you didn't want that, you'd have used RDS for cheaper. So it makes logical sense that if you are paying all that money for ICA, it applies to Windows and Linux workloads roughly equally.

            Yeah, apparently I'm now motivated to go learn all about it. I'll have to take a look at ICA some more here.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato
              last edited by

              See below:
              https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @dbeato
                last edited by

                @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                See below:
                https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                  @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                  See below:
                  https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                  So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                  RDP used to just be cheap ICA. It was actually a stripped down ICA originally. They licensed it from Citrix.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                    @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                    See below:
                    https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                    So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                    Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dbeato
                      last edited by

                      @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                      @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                      @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                      See below:
                      https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                      So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                      Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                      Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                        @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                        @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                        @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                        See below:
                        https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                        So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                        Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                        Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

                        I meant native VDI

                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dbeato
                          last edited by

                          @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                          @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                          @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                          @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                          See below:
                          https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                          So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                          Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                          Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

                          I meant native VDI

                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config

                          What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.

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                          • dbeatoD
                            dbeato @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                            See below:
                            https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                            So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                            Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                            Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

                            I meant native VDI

                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config

                            What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.

                            Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dbeato
                              last edited by

                              @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                              See below:
                              https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                              So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                              Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                              Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

                              I meant native VDI

                              https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config

                              What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.

                              Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.

                              RDS is all Microsoft. But MS and VDI have no tie together. You can do VDI with nothing but KVM and Linux guests.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @travisdh1 said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                @dbeato said in Arg! XenApp!:

                                See below:
                                https://www.parallels.com/blogs/ras/what-is-ica-citrix/

                                So, basically, it's expensive RDP with the same latency issues. Why companies, why? Guess it's another "I'll tell you it's a bad idea and then you'll pay me for all the extra time it's going to take" situations. That assumes they can find anyone who will touch it.

                                Yes, you can do the same with VDI and remote apps.

                                Well, ICA is one way to do VDI and remote apps, lol.

                                I meant native VDI

                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/rds-supported-config

                                What does Native VDI mean? VDI only refers to something being virtualized. RDS is as much native VDI as any other remoting technology. VDI is just one to one usage, instead of many to one. VDI predates any modern VDI associated technologies.

                                Okay, in my case not involving additional software or application to set it up that is not Microsoft.

                                RDS is all Microsoft. But MS and VDI have no tie together. You can do VDI with nothing but KVM and Linux guests.
                                I get it... trying to place a standard into a box, ny bad.

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