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    • R3dPand4R
      R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Geez well disregard that portion I suppose.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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        @r3dpand4 said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

        @scottalanmiller Geez well disregard that portion I suppose.

        Smaller enterprises you might find high turn over, like in the SMB. But mostly it's the smaller ones less than the F100. The high turnover of IT is exacerbated the smaller that you get. It still exists far more in the top ranks moreso than other fields in those companies, but it really does slow down a lot. I know lots of people who've been in the same place for 20+ years and are perfectly happy and aren't looking anywhere. They started low and move up and keep getting promoted. There are so many steps on the ladders there, that they can keep moving up a little each year for decades and still be in the middle reaches of things.

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        • R3dPand4R
          R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller I could see that, one thing I will say is a lot of the issues I had with the employer I'm leaving are being addressed by my new one. There are also some special arrangements that are available to me that I'm interested in utilizing that's laid out on paper with HR, and I couldn't get anything to budge from the SMB where you might think there'd be more flexibility.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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            @r3dpand4 said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

            @scottalanmiller I could see that, one thing I will say is a lot of the issues I had with the employer I'm leaving are being addressed by my new one. There are also some special arrangements that are available to me that I'm interested in utilizing that's laid out on paper with HR, and I couldn't get anything to budge from the SMB where you might think there'd be more flexibility.

            I've found that a lot. SMBs tend to actually be way less flexible compared to enterprises. Enterprises tend to be much more focused on their employee's, their quality of life, and running the business well. SMBs tend to be focused on the emotional needs of the owners to the exclusion of all else, including value of life and profits.

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            • R3dPand4R
              R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
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              I've found that a lot. SMBs tend to actually be way less flexible compared to enterprises. Enterprises tend to be much more focused on their employee's, their quality of life, and running the business well. SMBs tend to be focused on the emotional needs of the owners to the exclusion of all else, including value of life and profits.

              Well said, almost like you've been doing this a while.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
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                After working Enterprise, I don't think I could ever go back to SMB. See @scottalanmiller first reply and that pretty much sums it up.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                  @irj said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                  After working Enterprise, I don't think I could ever go back to SMB. See @scottalanmiller first reply and that pretty much sums it up.

                  I've gone back and forth, but my SMB leaps are more and more into more eclectic stuff rather than normal SMB. SMB, overall, is a very tough game with low pay, high expectations, and little connection between value and compensation or even appreciation.

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                  • R3dPand4R
                    R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Agreed, especially since you're to a greater degree surrounded by people who have absolutely no idea what it is that you do. Even management structures in SMB IT are rarely staffed by technical individuals or technically competent I should probably say. At least in my experience, the fewer people around me who think what I do is comparable to black magic the better.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings
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                      How are Enterprise IT positions advertised? Or does it tend to be 100% networking.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                        @eddiejennings said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                        How are Enterprise IT positions advertised? Or does it tend to be 100% networking.

                        Headhunters handle it a lot, as do real consulting firms. A lot is direct today, there are only 100 F100s, for example, you can apply directly. Knowing someone helps no matter where you are.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          I like Roche as a company, for example, though. And I subscribe to their internal job posting system so that they send me alerts for their Spanish and Swiss postings for IT management, in case I decide to be interested.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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                            @r3dpand4 said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                            @scottalanmiller Agreed, especially since you're to a greater degree surrounded by people who have absolutely no idea what it is that you do. Even management structures in SMB IT are rarely staffed by technical individuals or technically competent I should probably say. At least in my experience, the fewer people around me who think what I do is comparable to black magic the better.

                            Which, I've found, is how they look at everything, so IT isn't special.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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                              @r3dpand4 said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                              @scottalanmiller Agreed, especially since you're to a greater degree surrounded by people who have absolutely no idea what it is that you do. Even management structures in SMB IT are rarely staffed by technical individuals or technically competent I should probably say. At least in my experience, the fewer people around me who think what I do is comparable to black magic the better.

                              Youtube Video

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Watched this earlier today.

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                                  @r3dpand4 said in Employment in the Enterprise compared to SMB:

                                  @scottalanmiller Agreed, especially since you're to a greater degree surrounded by people who have absolutely no idea what it is that you do. Even management structures in SMB IT are rarely staffed by technical individuals or technically competent I should probably say. At least in my experience, the fewer people around me who think what I do is comparable to black magic the better.

                                  Youtube Video

                                  You need a better mic.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                    @kelly I really do. And a quieter space to record in. and a tripod.

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                                    • caramelC
                                      caramel
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                                      Also consider that nearly all enterprises use WiFi. So that's something to worry about.

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