Don't use Serverfault.com
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Seriously, don't.
I used it for the first time to ask a question, and gets put on hold as being off-topic (it's not):
put on hold as off-topic by Sven
20 mins ago
This question appears to be off-topic for this site. While what’s on- and off-topic is not always intuitive, you can learn more about it by reading the help center. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
"Requests for product, service, or learning material recommendations are off-topic because they attract low quality, opinionated and spam answers, and the answers become obsolete quickly. Instead, describe the business problem you are working on, the research you have done, and the steps taken so far to solve it." – Sven
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit your question.I'm trying to find a solution to a problem, which requires a software product... basically, I need to do "x", software "y" does it, but I'm looking for open-source. What can I do?
Every other serverfault topic/question mentions product names in it, why can't mine?
No way to contact this "Sven" about it, can't use their chat to get help as I don't have enough reputation... what a shitty website.
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Why not post it here? Serverfault is kind of terrible all around. Sometimes you can get good stuff but generally the answers are bad practice or just plain security holes.
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i don't use it either. their rules seem more of a way to not answer tough questions or just questions they don't know about. your question shouldn't even be hard, someone either knows or they don't. you were just looking to see if anyone did, i can't see any problem with that. they have never been helpful from the times i looked at them. anyway, that's why i don't use them.
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You can find some good information on the StackOverflow family of sites, but the cruelty of the community dissuades me from participating.
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@coliver said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Why not post it here?
When I was googling about it, I found numerous serverfault answers that were on the right track, it's just the right question wasn't asked. So I figured if I ask the right question, I'll find the answer by someone who I'm sure already knows or can point me in the right direction.
In fact, I'm sure the answer was already mentioned in another users answered question, but wasn't specific to my question... so I basically just needed a straight answer.
Anyways, apparently it's off topic even though there's hundreds of similar questions... so... no thanks. Site = blacklisted.
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Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
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@irj said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
That's the typical gripe I see from the threads I've read. People spend more time complaining about the syntax and structure of a question, rather than (often) applying some common sense to understand what's being asked.
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@eddiejennings said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@irj said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
That's the typical gripe I see from the threads I've read. People spend more time complaining about the syntax and structure of a question, rather than (often) applying some common sense to understand what's being asked.
Yep... basically this.
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@coliver said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@eddiejennings said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@irj said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
That's the typical gripe I see from the threads I've read. People spend more time complaining about the syntax and structure of a question, rather than (often) applying some common sense to understand what's being asked.
Yep... basically this.
Yeah.... the value of a site like Mangolassi.it just keeps growing.
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@tim_g said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
I'm trying to find a solution to a problem, which requires a software product... basically, I need to do "x", software "y" does it, but I'm looking for open-source. What can I do?
ServerFault is built around "X is broken, how do I fix it." What you are looking for is more a MangoLassi kind of site. They want only discrete break/fix issues there with no opinion options.
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@coliver said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Why not post it here? Serverfault is kind of terrible all around. Sometimes you can get good stuff but generally the answers are bad practice or just plain security holes.
It's about "get an answer fast", not "have peers discuss and review what I am doing."
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@eddiejennings said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
You can find some good information on the StackOverflow family of sites, but the cruelty of the community dissuades me from participating.
It used to be good, I used them before there was a Spiceworks! But obviously, that was a long time ago.
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@eddiejennings said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@irj said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
That's the typical gripe I see from the threads I've read. People spend more time complaining about the syntax and structure of a question, rather than (often) applying some common sense to understand what's being asked.
That's what people resort to when they have no useful input.
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@tim_g said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@coliver said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@eddiejennings said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
@irj said in Don't use Serverfault.com:
Maybe they knew you were from mangolassi so they assumed you'd be off topic
like me right now
That's the typical gripe I see from the threads I've read. People spend more time complaining about the syntax and structure of a question, rather than (often) applying some common sense to understand what's being asked.
Yep... basically this.
Yeah.... the value of a site like Mangolassi.it just keeps growing.
More that the value of others keeps fading away
