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    • sreekumarpgS
      sreekumarpg
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      I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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        @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

        I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

        Are you saying that because you think that Veeam does not have an agent?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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          @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

          @scottalanmiller We are using Physical SQL Cluster with CSV.

          Isnt' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physical.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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            @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

            I would like to have a Backup solution of SQL with native agent base backup rather than Block level backup, so that I can restore in DB level.

            Both agent and block level do this equally. Being agent based is not a factor in this capability.

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            • sreekumarpgS
              sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

              ock level do this equally. Being agent based is not a factor in this capability.

              Thanks scott, I will be testing the Veeam solution also.

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              • sreekumarpgS
                sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                t' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physica

                This is in Production and currently we are doing SQL native backup as the Rapid Recovery is not able to see the clustered share volume to take block level backup

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                  @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                  t' this in production? Databases are the last thing you'd want physica

                  This is in Production and currently we are doing SQL native backup as the Rapid Recovery is not able to see the clustered share volume to take block level backup

                  Production and physical really don't go together. Physical implies that someone didn't think that this was a very important workload. Databases are the top thing to virtualize and have been universally virtualized the longest as virtualization adds stability and safety.

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                  • sreekumarpgS
                    sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @sreekumarpg
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                      @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                      @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

                      If they need documents to convince them to protect their data, we've got bigger issues. Virtualization in the industry best practice and has been for a very long time. It's safer in many ways. All benefits, no downsides. The ball is in their court to explain why they have been reckless.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Some references...

                        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/04/virtualizing-even-a-single-server/
                        http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/11/virtualization-as-a-standard-pattern/

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                        • sreekumarpgS
                          sreekumarpg @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Thanks Scott, really appreciate

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @sreekumarpg
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                            @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                            @scottalanmiller Agree scott, unfortunately Management current decision is to continue the SQL in the Physical cluster and seems they have no plans to change. If possible kindly share me some details and documents which can help me to propose the same to my management for review.

                            Here's the better question - why is management making these calls? Are they IT? Do they understand modern IT practice?

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                            • KOOLERK
                              KOOLER Vendor @sreekumarpg
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                              @sreekumarpg said in Microsoft SQL Backup Solution:

                              Hello All,

                              I would like to get the suggestion on SQL backup Solution. Currently our environment is have two node SQL cluster with around 16 TB of Data. We are using Rapid Recovery as the Backup solution. We have upgraded our Windows Cluster to 2012 with Clustered Share Volume and the SQL Cluster to 2014.

                              Now we are facing issue with Rapid Recovery as its not able to understand the clustered share volume and we are not able to take the backup of our SQL storage on Block level. As per Rapid Recovery, they are not sure when they will release a version which support CSV.

                              We are in a situation to look into another SQL backup Solutions. Currently I am testing the Unitrends backup Virtual appliance and Its is good in backup, but I am having some issues on the retention polices as they provide only minimal policy which is on the SQL instance level.

                              Kindly suggest me a good backup solution for the SQL database which is having application native backup agent or CSV support , rather than block level backup. Also with the backup policy and retention policy of

                              Backup : - Daily Incremental and Monthly Full backup
                              Retention : - 2 Week incremental and Last month Full backup.

                              Backup : Every 6 Month
                              Retention : Last 6th Month

                              Backup : Every Year
                              Retention : Last 2 year.

                              If this can be achieved in Unitrends please share the details.

                              Thanks in Advance.

                              Veeam

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