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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Deleted74295
      last edited by

      @breffni-potter said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

      Anyway. You need three drives, the old failing, a backup target and the new one.

      If you are making an image, see my third post.

      You only need two if you are making a direct clone, as mentioned in my second post.

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        Jimmy9008
        last edited by

        Use Veeam Agent for Windows. Entirely free.

        1. Install.
        2. Create Recovery Image.
        3. Backup to USB.
        4. Remove failing HDD, add new HDD.
        5. Boot to Bootable USB with the Veeam Recovery Image applied (Rufus is good for that - also free).
        6. Inset restore USB and select it in Veeam Recovery.
        7. Let it recover...
        8. Done!

        Easy. Works time after time.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Jimmy9008
          last edited by

          @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

          Use Veeam Agent for Windows. Entirely free.

          1. Install.
          2. Create Recovery Image.
          3. Backup to USB.
          4. Remove failing HDD, add new HDD.
          5. Boot to Bootable USB with the Veeam Recovery Image applied (Rufus is good for that - also free).
          6. Inset restore USB and select it in Veeam Recovery.
          7. Let it recover...
          8. Done!

          Easy. Works time after time.

          Just for clarification - this is a three drive solution as well.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @G I Jones
            last edited by Emad R

            @g-i-jones

            Maybe the system image restored failed due to errors found in the failing HDD.

            Why dont you just backup the data of files in :

            C:\Users
            And the other drives besides C using a light Linux Live OS (Gparted) or WIndows recovery enviroment.
            And take his browser profile, and bookmarks.

            Thats what most users need anyway.

            Installing Windows 7 or any windows from scratch takes 5-10 mins on good machines and 15-20 on slow ones. then restore the data.

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            • G I JonesG
              G I Jones @Emad R
              last edited by

              @emad-r Yeah, I learned that there isn't any specific software he needs, so I'm just going to literally copy his user folder and maybe the Pictures, Documents, and Music folders onto a thumb drive, give him a newer tower with a fresh 7 install and just drag and drop that over. Was still nice getting all these avenues of approach.

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                Jimmy9008 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                Use Veeam Agent for Windows. Entirely free.

                1. Install.
                2. Create Recovery Image.
                3. Backup to USB.
                4. Remove failing HDD, add new HDD.
                5. Boot to Bootable USB with the Veeam Recovery Image applied (Rufus is good for that - also free).
                6. Inset restore USB and select it in Veeam Recovery.
                7. Let it recover...
                8. Done!

                Easy. Works time after time.

                Just for clarification - this is a three drive solution as well.

                Veeam Agent won't care how many drives. You do the backup and image. Replace one, two or all three. Won't matter.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Emad R
                  last edited by

                  @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                  @g-i-jones

                  Maybe the system image restored failed due to errors found in the failing HDD.

                  Why dont you just backup the data of files in :

                  C:\Users
                  And the other drives besides C using a light Linux Live OS (Gparted) or WIndows recovery enviroment.
                  And take his browser profile, and bookmarks.

                  Thats what most users need anyway.

                  Installing Windows 7 or any windows from scratch takes 5-10 mins on good machines and 15-20 on slow ones. then restore the data.

                  Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

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                  • G I JonesG
                    G I Jones @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender yea, those updates are ruthless for sure. Good point.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Jimmy9008
                      last edited by

                      @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                      @dashrender said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                      @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                      Use Veeam Agent for Windows. Entirely free.

                      1. Install.
                      2. Create Recovery Image.
                      3. Backup to USB.
                      4. Remove failing HDD, add new HDD.
                      5. Boot to Bootable USB with the Veeam Recovery Image applied (Rufus is good for that - also free).
                      6. Inset restore USB and select it in Veeam Recovery.
                      7. Let it recover...
                      8. Done!

                      Easy. Works time after time.

                      Just for clarification - this is a three drive solution as well.

                      Veeam Agent won't care how many drives. You do the backup and image. Replace one, two or all three. Won't matter.

                      That's not what I mean.

                      To use Veeam - you need three total drives.
                      drive 1 - original
                      drive 2 - place to store the backup image (you can use any number of different software packages to do this)
                      drive 3 - replacement drive that you will restore the image onto.

                      This is what my third post suggests, just using Clonezilla instead of Veeam, and @Breffni-Potter mentioned.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @G I Jones
                        last edited by

                        @g-i-jones said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                        @emad-r Yeah, I learned that there isn't any specific software he needs, so I'm just going to literally copy his user folder and maybe the Pictures, Documents, and Music folders onto a thumb drive, give him a newer tower with a fresh 7 install and just drag and drop that over. Was still nice getting all these avenues of approach.

                        Why are you giving them Windows 7? You can upgrade that machine to Windows 10 for free, why keep them on old stuff?

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                        • G I JonesG
                          G I Jones @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender I don't call the shots on that. I personally like 10, but everything we have at our organization is build on or with Windows 7 in mind. Plus, most of our users are older folk that if you threw a new OS at them, they would be calling me for every minor task because they hardly know how to set up a print job as it is.

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                          • Emad RE
                            Emad R @G I Jones
                            last edited by Emad R

                            @g-i-jones @Dashrender

                            Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

                            In I.T bench world, you can tick the option to install updates automatically, and give the client the machine and it will install updates by itself. No one has to babysit the whole thing (unless you really love that person you are helping).

                            Also I love system image modder by the name of murphy78, what he does is incorporates Windows 7 updates in the base installation image, without corrupting anything (and I trust him after following many of his releases).

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                            • G I JonesG
                              G I Jones @Emad R
                              last edited by

                              @emad-r I'm gonna have to look into that, that's highly interesting, thanks for sharing.

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                                Jimmy9008 @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                @dashrender said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                Use Veeam Agent for Windows. Entirely free.

                                1. Install.
                                2. Create Recovery Image.
                                3. Backup to USB.
                                4. Remove failing HDD, add new HDD.
                                5. Boot to Bootable USB with the Veeam Recovery Image applied (Rufus is good for that - also free).
                                6. Inset restore USB and select it in Veeam Recovery.
                                7. Let it recover...
                                8. Done!

                                Easy. Works time after time.

                                Just for clarification - this is a three drive solution as well.

                                Veeam Agent won't care how many drives. You do the backup and image. Replace one, two or all three. Won't matter.

                                That's not what I mean.

                                To use Veeam - you need three total drives.
                                drive 1 - original
                                drive 2 - place to store the backup image (you can use any number of different software packages to do this)
                                drive 3 - replacement drive that you will restore the image onto.

                                This is what my third post suggests, just using Clonezilla instead of Veeam, and @Breffni-Potter mentioned.

                                Yes, makes sense. Read what you typed differently.

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                                  Jimmy9008 @Emad R
                                  last edited by

                                  @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                  @g-i-jones @Dashrender

                                  Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

                                  In I.T bench world, you can tick the option to install updates automatically, and give the client the machine and it will install updates by itself. No one has to babysit the whole thing (unless you really love that person you are helping).

                                  Also I love system image modder by the name of murphy78, what he does is incorporates Windows 7 updates in the base installation image, without corrupting anything.

                                  Yeah, can do this but every so often expect the call: "My PC that you repaired yesterday is so slow." - They won't appreciate it's doing a bazillion updates. IMO - should get to them up to date and ready.

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                                  • Emad RE
                                    Emad R @Jimmy9008
                                    last edited by

                                    @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                    @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                    @g-i-jones @Dashrender

                                    Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

                                    In I.T bench world, you can tick the option to install updates automatically, and give the client the machine and it will install updates by itself. No one has to babysit the whole thing (unless you really love that person you are helping).

                                    Also I love system image modder by the name of murphy78, what he does is incorporates Windows 7 updates in the base installation image, without corrupting anything.

                                    Yeah, can do this but every so often expect the call: "My PC that you repaired yesterday is so slow." - They won't appreciate it's doing a bazillion updates. IMO - should get to them up to date and ready.

                                    It all depends on the user... is the user good to you ? did he ever provided with sweets or offered food ? if not he gets the Vanilla Windows 7.

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                                    • Emad RE
                                      Emad R @G I Jones
                                      last edited by

                                      @g-i-jones

                                      You can learn that lost art yourself, but murphy78 had mad skillz in this thing. Too bad recently he stopped updating his stuff cause he moved to bad location with no good internet.

                                      Um research him and see how he does it, listen he is not cracker or pirate or hacker (my opinion), he uses official MSDN images and open about his methods, and he just provides you with like Windows 7 image up-to-date with .net 4.6 for example.

                                      Also he can provide you with Windows 10 All In One release, like Windows 10 behemoth image with 26 options to install.

                                      But honestly speaking I can see why it is lost art, today you Can install Windows 10
                                      (whatever version you like) + Cumulative update and your good to go.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Jimmy9008
                                        last edited by

                                        @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                        @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                        @g-i-jones @Dashrender

                                        Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

                                        In I.T bench world, you can tick the option to install updates automatically, and give the client the machine and it will install updates by itself. No one has to babysit the whole thing (unless you really love that person you are helping).

                                        Also I love system image modder by the name of murphy78, what he does is incorporates Windows 7 updates in the base installation image, without corrupting anything.

                                        Yeah, can do this but every so often expect the call: "My PC that you repaired yesterday is so slow." - They won't appreciate it's doing a bazillion updates. IMO - should get to them up to date and ready.

                                        Exactly. Handing a unit to an end user that has hours of updates to go, not only makes the machine slow, also give the user a window to get infected by otherwise patched things. While this might be a low probability, it's just not worth it to me.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Emad R
                                          last edited by

                                          @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                          @jimmy9008 said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                          @emad-r said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                          @g-i-jones @Dashrender

                                          Really? When was the last time you install Windows 7? It took over 5 hours to install all the updates.

                                          In I.T bench world, you can tick the option to install updates automatically, and give the client the machine and it will install updates by itself. No one has to babysit the whole thing (unless you really love that person you are helping).

                                          Also I love system image modder by the name of murphy78, what he does is incorporates Windows 7 updates in the base installation image, without corrupting anything.

                                          Yeah, can do this but every so often expect the call: "My PC that you repaired yesterday is so slow." - They won't appreciate it's doing a bazillion updates. IMO - should get to them up to date and ready.

                                          It all depends on the user... is the user good to you ? did he ever provided with sweets or offered food ? if not he gets the Vanilla Windows 7.

                                          Wow - someone has to much power.

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                                          • Emad RE
                                            Emad R @Dashrender
                                            last edited by Emad R

                                            @dashrender said in Windows restore from system image (Windows 7 Professional):

                                            It all depends on the user... is the user good to you ? did he ever provided with sweets or offered food ? if not he gets the Vanilla Windows 7.

                                            More like too much responsibilities and under paid.

                                            I support one main site with 100 machines/users (there is server that I can use to help me).
                                            another with 30 machines (there is server that I can use to help me).
                                            and another with 20 machines (no servers)
                                            and ofcourse the printers everywhere.

                                            • my servers + vendor servers + WiFi and the firewall.

                                            Basically everything I.T

                                            No assistance or helper, even when requested, they offered a good candidate I choose internally 14.10$ per month, for helping me an hour each day = true story.

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