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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Not a single job has trained me. I have never had even a mentor at any of my jobs teaching me anything. I learned everything I know myself (except for ML). I haven't even had a job pay for some shitty cert for me.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
It's half of the reason. The other half is I was miserable and I mean that as much as I possibly can. Absolute misery.
While I suppose it's possible for you, I suspect that most people, if the environment was so toxic, would have stayed, especially considering a near 50% paycut.
Oddly enough - I do have a friend who did just up and quit, no notice, just he was fed up, walked away. Had no job to go to, I think took a 60%+ paycut at the job he did end up getting.
I guess I consider myself lucky that I've worked in such a toxic environment.
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
It's half of the reason. The other half is I was miserable and I mean that as much as I possibly can. Absolute misery.
While I suppose it's possible for you, I suspect that most people, if the environment was so toxic, would have stayed, especially considering a near 50% paycut.
I doubt it
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Not a single job has trained me. I have never had even a mentor at any of my jobs teaching me anything. I learned everything I know myself (except for ML). I haven't even had a job pay for some shitty cert for me.
Since you never work for IT organizations, this is something that you have to manage. There isn't someone to handle this for you as you have no mentor. So you have to take the bull by the horns.
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.
I challenge you guys to find a single person who is more interested in learning and growing than I am. I'll never make the claim that I am great at it, but I'm definitely one of the most motivated people I've ever met
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
It's half of the reason. The other half is I was miserable and I mean that as much as I possibly can. Absolute misery.
While I suppose it's possible for you, I suspect that most people, if the environment was so toxic, would have stayed, especially considering a near 50% paycut.
I doubt it
I mistyped - I meant, I but if the environment was a good place to work that most people would have stayed there making 90K. A good environment would have been investing in you to make themselves and you better. So perhaps they over paid you to start, but you'd grow into it.
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.
Remember what I said earlier about marketing yourself. Give a business reason why you need training and how it will save the company money
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!
I haven't worked a single IT job that I haven't gotten expensive training paid for and this includes some SMBs
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!
I've rarely been at one that budgets so little. My last several jobs budgeted more like $10K - $20K, not including internal training.
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.
Remember what I said earlier about marketing yourself. Give a business reason why you need training and how it will save the company money
Exactly, it's a business presentation just like everything else.
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Don't write out "Information Technology". Anyone hiring you knows what IT standards for. Keep it short and sweet. IT Technician is okay.
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I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?
1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.
2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?
1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.
2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it
He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though
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@IRJ I just checked my e-mail. You sent me that stuff Dec 14th, 2016 to give you an idea of how long it's been.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?
1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.
2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it
He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though
It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?
1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.
2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it
He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though
It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.
That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.
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@IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.
