Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference
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@wirestyle22 said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
I think talking to your peers hurts more than it helps. A lot of my misunderstandings (not all, but most) stem from me receiving misinformation. I probably spend more time unlearning incorrect concepts than I do learning correct ones. I can count the amount of humble IT peeps I've met on one hand--whether they really know what they are doing or not. This field seems to attract a lot of people who want to be the authority on things but aren't. I fit into this category, but I try my absolute best to not give misinformation if I can.
Partially matters how you define peers. Or who your peers are. If you are an entry level person, your peers are entry level and yes, listening to them is very, very bad. If you go to SW, it's clear what the peerage there has done and it has destroyed the knowledge and competence there in so many cases. So much misinformation passed back and forth to make it look legitimate.
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@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
It sounds like you liked what Gartner's analysts had to say.
No, he likes IDC, not Gartner.
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@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@wirestyle22 said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
I think talking to your peers hurts more than it helps. A lot of my misunderstandings (not all, but most) stem from me receiving misinformation. I probably spend more time unlearning incorrect concepts than I do learning correct ones. I can count the amount of humble IT peeps I've met on one hand--whether they really know what they are doing or not. This field seems to attract a lot of people who want to be the authority on things but aren't. I fit into this category, but I try my absolute best to not give misinformation if I can.
Partially matters how you define peers. Or who your peers are. If you are an entry level person, your peers are entry level and yes, listening to them is very, very bad. If you go to SW, it's clear what the peerage there has done and it has destroyed the knowledge and competence there in so many cases. So much misinformation passed back and forth to make it look legitimate.
This is the same train of thought I take, which essentially means most of you are not my peers but are more my mentors
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@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
It sounds like you liked what Gartner's analysts had to say.
No, he likes IDC, not Gartner.
Thanks for clearing that up. It makes more sense now.
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@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
It sounds like you liked what Gartner's analysts had to say.
No, he likes IDC, not Gartner.
Thanks for clearing that up. It makes more sense now.
I've not worked with IDC but have no knowledge of them working like Gartner does. And it is hard to hide because if you have any vendor side exposure, that Gartner reaches out to extort vendors is common knowledge as they do it to everyone. Same kind of thing that Dunn & Bradstreet do. Give us money, or we'll report bad things about you.
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@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
It sounds like you liked what Gartner's analysts had to say.
No, he likes IDC, not Gartner.
Thanks for clearing that up. It makes more sense now.
I've not worked with IDC but have no knowledge of them working like Gartner does. And it is hard to hide because if you have any vendor side exposure, that Gartner reaches out to extort vendors is common knowledge as they do it to everyone. Same kind of thing that Dunn & Bradstreet do. Give us money, or we'll report bad things about you.
The biggest issues with Gartner I have is how they arbitrarily define what a market is. They will ignore the #1 vendor in a space by making an artificial distinction (HCI must be an appliance and not software, All Flash arrays must be an array that isn't just sold with only flash, but has a magic SKU that prevents you from installing non-flash drives) etc.
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@John-Nicholson said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@scottalanmiller said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
@Kelly said in Vendor Neutral IT Strategist Conference:
It sounds like you liked what Gartner's analysts had to say.
No, he likes IDC, not Gartner.
Thanks for clearing that up. It makes more sense now.
I've not worked with IDC but have no knowledge of them working like Gartner does. And it is hard to hide because if you have any vendor side exposure, that Gartner reaches out to extort vendors is common knowledge as they do it to everyone. Same kind of thing that Dunn & Bradstreet do. Give us money, or we'll report bad things about you.
The biggest issues with Gartner I have is how they arbitrarily define what a market is. They will ignore the #1 vendor in a space by making an artificial distinction (HCI must be an appliance and not software, All Flash arrays must be an array that isn't just sold with only flash, but has a magic SKU that prevents you from installing non-flash drives) etc.
Yes, that's how they do the marketing. Find what you want to sell, and define the research by whatever makes that product stand out. Rather than looking for the needs and finding the product that meets it, they find the product and seek a need.
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And then they make whatever need that is sound general and ubiquitous. Same trick, but way more powerful, than what FreeNAS does. FreeNAS says "to get X you need to do Y" but don't mention that X isn't something you want, they present it as a foregone conclusion and people just get suckered right into that. At least FreeNAS never pretends to be neutral or giving advice. People just convince themselves of that.
