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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

      LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

      Maybe if you don't know the area....

      Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IRJ
        last edited by

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

        Orlando is SO much more expensive.

        https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/orlando

        42nd of 62 cities.... Not sure where you get your information from.

        42nd... where he is at wouldn't even be on the list. That's how much more it is. They aren't even comparable. Cost of everything is so much lower where he is, except for the state tax thing.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

          LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

          Maybe if you don't know the area....

          Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

          One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

            LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

            Maybe if you don't know the area....

            Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

            One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

            I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @scottalanmiller
              last edited by IRJ

              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

              Orlando is SO much more expensive.

              https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/orlando

              42nd of 62 cities.... Not sure where you get your information from.

              42nd... where he is at wouldn't even be on the list. That's how much more it is. They aren't even comparable. Cost of everything is so much lower where he is, except for the state tax thing.

              Rochester vs. Orlando

              If you include the state income tax, I would say it's a break even

              http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/rochester-ny/orlando-fl/80000

              Note: This is considering an $80k salary.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/orlando

                42nd of 62 cities.... Not sure where you get your information from.

                42nd... where he is at wouldn't even be on the list. That's how much more it is. They aren't even comparable. Cost of everything is so much lower where he is, except for the state tax thing.

                42nd out of 62....

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
                  last edited by scottalanmiller

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                  Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                  https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/orlando

                  42nd of 62 cities.... Not sure where you get your information from.

                  42nd... where he is at wouldn't even be on the list. That's how much more it is. They aren't even comparable. Cost of everything is so much lower where he is, except for the state tax thing.

                  Rochester vs. Orlando

                  If you include the state income tax, I would say it's a break even

                  http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/rochester-ny/orlando-fl/80000

                  Note: This is considering an $80k salary.

                  Yeah, but Rochester is WAY more expensive than where he is from. I mean seriously, no comparison at all.

                  I'm originally from Rochester, so know how much more it is. My Ohio family couldn't sell all of their houses combined and get an apartment in Rochester. And Rochester is not that bad.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                    LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                    Maybe if you don't know the area....

                    Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

                    One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

                    I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

                    Well, if it doesn't have electric run in it, you're most likely correct.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                      Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                      https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/orlando

                      42nd of 62 cities.... Not sure where you get your information from.

                      42nd... where he is at wouldn't even be on the list. That's how much more it is. They aren't even comparable. Cost of everything is so much lower where he is, except for the state tax thing.

                      42nd out of 62....

                      What are you talking about?

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
                        last edited by

                        My issue is not comparing costs where he lives. My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or proof. Saying that Orlando is SO high for living costs is an untrue statement.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          My issue is not comparing costs where he lives. My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or proof. Saying that Orlando is SO high for living costs is an untrue statement.

                          It's not. I said it was so high COMPARED TO WHERE HE IS. And it is. Orlando is dramatically expensive by comparison. And you demonstrated it by comparing it to Rochester, which I know even better is dramatically more expensive.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            My issue is not comparing costs where he lives. My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or proof. Saying that Orlando is SO high for living costs is an untrue statement.

                            It's not. I said it was so high COMPARED TO WHERE HE IS. And it is. Orlando is dramatically expensive by comparison. And you demonstrated it by comparing it to Rochester, which I know even better is dramatically more expensive.

                            Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                            Rochester and Orlando are on the low side compared to other larger cities.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              . My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or

                              You say this assuming I don't know the Orlando area. I've spent a lot of time there. I have lots of friends that live there. I have looked at prices there. I have a fair idea of the cost. My family is also from where Travis is from and I know those costs REALLY well and know that no city in the US is comparable. He's not close to any city, it's insanely cheap where he is.

                              You said that Orlando is cheaper, but keep showing that it is more expensive.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                Rochester and Orlando are on the low side compared to other larger cities.

                                He's in rural north east Ohio. Southwest of Canton.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  . My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or

                                  You say this assuming I don't know the Orlando area. I've spent a lot of time there. I have lots of friends that live there. I have looked at prices there. I have a fair idea of the cost. My family is also from where Travis is from and I know those costs REALLY well and know that no city in the US is comparable. He's not close to any city, it's insanely cheap where he is.

                                  You said that Orlando is cheaper, but keep showing that it is more expensive.

                                  Not cheaper than where he lives, but much cheaper than the west coast where he was looking

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    Rochester and Orlando are on the low side compared to other larger cities.

                                    Agreed, but very expensive compared to Ohio's countryside.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      Not cheaper than where he lives, but much cheaper than the west coast where he was looking

                                      Granted, but that's not that I said.

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                                      • jt1001001J
                                        jt1001001 @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 wow that's cheap. Was going to suggest looking around here (Buffalo, Western New York)but don't think we can compete on cost of living.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ
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                                          Apparently there was a misunderstanding. I am thinking lower cost of living compared to west coast and large east coast cities. IT jobs aren't exactly overflowing in most rural low cost areas.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                            I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

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