Apple Announcement Sept. 2014
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@IRJ said:
@Dominica said:
For me, it's about the phone working, vs. not working. I and all the members of my family with Android phones had awful luck with them not working, not updating emails, not getting texts, etc. My iPhone 4s has been through hell, and it still works, I just finally broke it to the point where it doesn't charge while powered on, only while off, which is annoying, but it still works. I'm due for an upgrade, but I'm waiting for a 6 so that I have maximum time for iOS upgrades before it's obsolete.
Sure there is a small learning curve on Android phones, but we are technical and it isn't that difficult compared to troubleshooting Windows, Mac OS, or Linux operating systems.
In this day and age the simplicity argument doesn't hold as much water. Have you used Android KitKat? Its rather simple compared to Android 2.0. If you just want simplicity and dont care about features why not just get the Iphone 5c?
KitKat is super stable too. The Froyo and Gingerbread generation (Android 2.x) was not real stable. Honeycomb, or Android 3.0, brought about a huge boost in stability, and features. 4.0 was even better. Now we're on 4.4 and it's just rock solid.
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@Dashrender said:
another thing that keeps people in iPhones is the ecosystem. They already invested heavily into that platform, it's nearly impossible to switch.
I definitely agree older Android devices weren't that great, but newer ones, especially top of the line ones (the only ones that compete with iDevices) work remarkably well, and are on a much more open (though not completely open) platform.
Now to get Google to 'sell' or give away the play store like Amazon does. I've never used the new Amazon phone, but I'm guessing it doesn't come with Google Play, so any of the purchases you made there you won't have unless you root/hack your Amazon phone.
My point exactly.
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Personally for me if I want a phone just to work and not have to deal with the phone or the interface I go with the iPhone. Just to get work e-mails, calls etc.
If I want a phone I can customize more I'd go with android. I use both iOS and Android here.
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@Dashrender said:
another thing that keeps people in iPhones is the ecosystem. They already invested heavily into that platform, it's nearly impossible to switch.
I definitely agree older Android devices weren't that great, but newer ones, especially top of the line ones (the only ones that compete with iDevices) work remarkably well, and are on a much more open (though not completely open) platform.
Now to get Google to 'sell' or give away the play store like Amazon does. I've never used the new Amazon phone, but I'm guessing it doesn't come with Google Play, so any of the purchases you made there you won't have unless you root/hack your Amazon phone.
Amazon has their own app store, so I'd have to imagine it goes through that. There must be a way to get a lot of the general Android apps though. Unless they are porting them all over...
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Personally for me if I want a phone just to work and not have to deal with the phone or the interface I go with the iPhone. Just to get work e-mails, calls etc.
If I want a phone I can customize more I'd go with android. I use both iOS and Android here.
My biggest contention with iPhones is the "one button to rule them all" mentality. I can't stand not having a back button. It sounds stupid, but that's my biggest reason. That and NO SWYPE! Couldn't do it. HAVE to have Swype. I wanted to kill something the whole time I had a WP8 for that very reason.
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@ajstringham It doesn't need the other buttons the UI was designed for it to not need them. It's actually less confusing to people that way.
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@Dominica If you are worried about transitioning to Android. You could always get the Amazon Firephone. It isnt the top of the line Andorid phone, but it comes with almost instant support for any question you want. According to most reviewers they received a technician willing to help out in less than 30 seconds. They answer any question you have and can help you find any particular setting you are looking for.
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For me stability of what I use on it and need to use work wise is why I am on IOS. I tried Windows Phones and look forward to that being more stable. Phone, email and texting must work at all times and having my Office 365 stuff just work. I don't need or want to customize anything.
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@Minion-Queen said:
For me stability of what I use on it and need to use work wise is why I am on IOS. I tried Windows Phones and look forward to that being more stable. Phone, email and texting must work at all times and having my Office 365 stuff just work. I don't need or want to customize anything.
You're not really IT though. Android is designed for slightly more technical users. I call iOS the stupid-simple mobile platform. It's designed for your everyday person who wants to get their iCloud account hacked and their nude photos put online for the world to see.
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@ajstringham said:
@Minion-Queen said:
For me stability of what I use on it and need to use work wise is why I am on IOS. I tried Windows Phones and look forward to that being more stable. Phone, email and texting must work at all times and having my Office 365 stuff just work. I don't need or want to customize anything.
You're not really IT though. Android is designed for slightly more technical users. I call iOS the stupid-simple mobile platform. It's designed for your everyday person who wants to get their iCloud account hacked and their nude photos put online for the world to see.
I disagree with this. I have the most non technical users that have Galaxy or LG phones. They can do whatever they need to do on their device. There is just a small learning curve.
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@IRJ said:
@ajstringham said:
@Minion-Queen said:
For me stability of what I use on it and need to use work wise is why I am on IOS. I tried Windows Phones and look forward to that being more stable. Phone, email and texting must work at all times and having my Office 365 stuff just work. I don't need or want to customize anything.
You're not really IT though. Android is designed for slightly more technical users. I call iOS the stupid-simple mobile platform. It's designed for your everyday person who wants to get their iCloud account hacked and their nude photos put online for the world to see.
I disagree with this. I have the most non technical users that have Galaxy or LG phones. They can do whatever they need to do on their device. There is just a small learning curve.
Android is far easier than it used to be, and it still not hard. However, the real reason people use iPhones is for the brand. Being able to say "I have an iPhone" is a notoriety variable. People do it for the same reason that 99% (not 100%) of people use Macs. It's a prestige thing. That's, quite honestly, the biggest reason most people use iPhones.
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@IRJ said:
Sure there is a small learning curve on Android phones, but we are technical and it isn't that difficult compared to troubleshooting Windows, Mac OS, or Linux operating systems.
Gee, this was a little condescending. I'm not talking about "small learning curve" problems, I'm talking about at least 10 Android phones from different manufacturers having similar, varied problems with consistently not getting email, internet not working, phone connection suddenly stopping, etc. Not things that us little ole' techie people can fix.
Also, I already said that I'm getting a 6 so that I have more time before it's obsolete. Our first gen iPad is at it's highest iOS and it's annoying that new apps don't work on it. Trying to give myself more time before being a problem on a new phone.
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@Dominica said:
@IRJ said:
Sure there is a small learning curve on Android phones, but we are technical and it isn't that difficult compared to troubleshooting Windows, Mac OS, or Linux operating systems.
Gee, this was a little condescending. I'm not talking about "small learning curve" problems, I'm talking about at least 10 Android phones from different manufacturers having similar, varied problems with consistently not getting email, internet not working, phone connection suddenly stopping, etc. Not things that us little ole' techie people can fix.
Also, I already said that I'm getting a 6 so that I have more time before it's obsolete. Our first gen iPad is at it's highest iOS and it's annoying that new apps don't work on it. Trying to give myself more time before being a problem on a new phone.
I didn't mean to come across that way. In my other posts I mentioned that its come a long way from 2.0 in many different ways including ease of use and stability. It sounds like you havent used it in awhile so I was trying to be helpful
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I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
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@IRJ said:
I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
Ironically, those tend to be more stable and lightweight. It's just the flashing process that can be risky is all. And even that is very low nowadays.
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@ajstringham said:
@IRJ said:
I haven't come across many issues with Android unless I install custom roms. LG, HTC, and Samsung have solid versions of Android
Ironically, those tend to be more stable and lightweight. It's just the flashing process that can be risky is all. And even that is very low nowadays.
In a way, but many times you lose features or experience random crashes. Trust me, I have played with alot of roms
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@IRJ said:
@Dominica If you are worried about transitioning to Android. You could always get the Amazon Firephone. It isnt the top of the line Andorid phone, but it comes with almost instant support for any question you want. According to most reviewers they received a technician willing to help out in less than 30 seconds. They answer any question you have and can help you find any particular setting you are looking for.
I seriously can't figure out why you're assuming that I couldn't handle using an Android. I never said it was too technical for me, and I'm not sure why you're going that route with your "answers".
I said that the phones I and my close family members owned were total crap that didn't work most of the time. That's not a technical issue, that's a piece of crap hardware. Maybe they are better now, but they were so bad when I gave them a chance, that I'm not willing to give them another shot.
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Thanks AJ, it's not that I can't learn Android as a matter of fact I have an android phone I use to trouble shoot issues on for clients. Notice I just said I have one just for trouble shooting issues? That being said I don't have to do that on my IPhone or even windows phone (though I will readily admit it is very unstable). It really comes down to personal preference.
However IPhone and IOS is super stable because it is Locked down there is good and bad that goes with that. But it is STABLE no question about that from anyone anywhere no matter what you prefer to use.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Thanks AJ, it's not that I can't learn Android as a matter of fact I have an android phone I use to trouble shoot issues on for clients. Notice I just said I have one just for trouble shooting issues? That being said I don't have to do that on my IPhone or even windows phone (though I will readily admit it is very unstable). It really comes down to personal preference.
However IPhone and IOS is super stable because it is Locked down there is good and bad that goes with that. But it is STABLE no question about that from anyone anywhere no matter what you prefer to use.
I didn't say you couldn't learn it. I don't think @IRJ was saying @Dominica couldn't learn Android. The point I was making is that a lot of people buy iPhone for the prestige and because it is, I will admit, in many ways simpler than Android. Prestige is still the single biggest factor outside IT. But you are right, it's preference. I prefer Android, you prefer iOS. In the end, whatever works for the task we have for it best will get the job done.
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@Dominica Sorry if this threads comes across as condescending. It's not meant to be, as I know @IRJ agrees.
