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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

      @stess said in Salary:

      Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

      No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

      You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @stess
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        @stess said in Salary:

        Some day I didn't even get to see my beloved desk at all.. and on my knees all day :'(.

        I am scared to ask.....

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @momurda
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          @momurda said in Salary:

          I am not close either. But i also dont work for Amazon or Microsoft, the two largest IT employers in WA, and who give money away like it was going out of style.

          Maybe you should then! 🙂 Giving away money sounds awesome.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
            last edited by

            @RojoLoco said in Salary:

            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

            @stess said in Salary:

            Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

            No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

            You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

            How many people do you see trying it, though?

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            • S
              stess @IRJ
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              @IRJ said in Salary:

              @stess said in Salary:

              Some day I didn't even get to see my beloved desk at all.. and on my knees all day :'(.

              I am scared to ask.....

              LOL!!! Don't put it out of context like that.
              ps. I laughed so loud my manager just looks at me like "Are you alright?"

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
                last edited by

                P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                  @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                  @stess said in Salary:

                  Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                  No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                  You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                  How many people do you see trying it, though?

                  All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ
                    last edited by

                    No degree here. I think at this point, there isn't much an incentive for me to get one.

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                      stess @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in Salary:

                      P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

                      median.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said in Salary:

                        P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

                        I did both, but they were about the same so it didn't really matter.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
                          last edited by

                          The median for my state is lower than the my position pay for my state. Luckily I slightly exceed the median for my position.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                            @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                            @stess said in Salary:

                            Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                            No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                            You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                            How many people do you see trying it, though?

                            All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.

                            But I did all of my career without the notoriety. So that isn't a factor. Sure now, things are different. But jump from six figures to seven was because of my name. But getting to six figures was not. I had no degree (at all, at that point) and no relevant certs and it never was an issue for my entire career, job after job. And I did a lot of jobs. Never once have I had it be a factor and I was in IT a long time before being famous and have only ever looked for work once since having some fame.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
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                              No but I also don't expect to

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                No but I also don't expect to

                                why not?

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @IRJ said in Salary:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                  No but I also don't expect to

                                  why not?

                                  I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                    @IRJ said in Salary:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                    No but I also don't expect to

                                    why not?

                                    I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

                                    Because you allow it

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                      @IRJ said in Salary:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                      No but I also don't expect to

                                      why not?

                                      I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

                                      That's something you can change.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @IRJ said in Salary:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                        @IRJ said in Salary:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                        No but I also don't expect to

                                        why not?

                                        I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

                                        Because you allow it

                                        I have stood up for myself and others in previous jobs and been punished harshly for it. I'm kind of done doing that unless it is extreme. All I really did was force us to save longer for a house.

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                                        • momurdaM
                                          momurda @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller I know people who work there. The people who work at amazon and ms work way too much. Mandatory Sunday morning meetings and ish like that.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                                            @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                                            @stess said in Salary:

                                            Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                                            No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                                            You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                                            How many people do you see trying it, though?

                                            All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.

                                            But I did all of my career without the notoriety. So that isn't a factor. Sure now, things are different. But jump from six figures to seven was because of my name. But getting to six figures was not. I had no degree (at all, at that point) and no relevant certs and it never was an issue for my entire career, job after job. And I did a lot of jobs. Never once have I had it be a factor and I was in IT a long time before being famous and have only ever looked for work once since having some fame.

                                            I'd wager that you are underestimating how early your name got you in the door. Either way, I don't feel like your particular path from beginning to now is in any way applicable to what most people experience.... ergo my earlier statement "you are the exception, not the rule". Your path to success is an exception to what most people are able to do.

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