Where Are You Running Nextcloud
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Like you just said, there's a price to be paid for great service.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Like you just said, there's a price to be paid for great service.
That's a HUGE price, though. There are way better ways to skin that cat.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Like you just said, there's a price to be paid for great service.
Yeah, but I'm talking about $5/month premium, not $20/month + less service.
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Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS? -
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
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@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
B'cos some of us noobs still need "hand holding" aka cPanel & Softaculous!!
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Like you just said, there's a price to be paid for great service.
That's a HUGE price, though. There are way better ways to skin that cat.
What are the better ways?
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@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
Why haven't you moved all your stuff to Vultr?
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Like you just said, there's a price to be paid for great service.
That's a HUGE price, though. There are way better ways to skin that cat.
What are the better ways?
I keep mentioning a plan that is way cheaper
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
B'cos some of us noobs still need "hand holding" aka cPanel & Softaculous!!
No one said not to have those things. I keep telling you, just install those two things on Vultr. Problem solved for cheap.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
B'cos some of us noobs still need "hand holding" aka cPanel & Softaculous!!
Or in my case it's purely financially motivated. 1HR of my time costs the company way more than $11 the cPanel costs us. With only a single website to run/manage, I'd spend lots more than 1 hour a month applying security updates that cPanel just automatically takes care of. 5 minutes a week to check logs instead is worth that additional cost.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
Why haven't you moved all your stuff to Vultr?
That's what we are doing.
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@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
B'cos some of us noobs still need "hand holding" aka cPanel & Softaculous!!
Or in my case it's purely financially motivated. 1HR of my time costs the company way more than $11 the cPanel costs us. With only a single website to run/manage, I'd spend lots more than 1 hour a month applying security updates that cPanel just automatically takes care of. 5 minutes a week to check logs instead is worth that additional cost.
I'm finding cPanel to not save me any time, might actually slow me down. So moving away from that.
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Where/what is
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
Why haven't you moved all your stuff to Vultr?
That's what we are doing.
Including the ASO stuff?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
B'cos some of us noobs still need "hand holding" aka cPanel & Softaculous!!
No one said not to have those things. I keep telling you, just install those two things on Vultr. Problem solved for cheap.
By the time I do that, I'm at BigScoots pricing level?
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Where/what is
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@travisdh1 said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Are we now looking at VPS's?
I thought the plan was basic web hosting + Cloudways/Vultr for VPS?Uhm.... VPS cost so little now, especially through the $2.50/month Vultr plan. Why would anyone consider shared hosting still?
Why haven't you moved all your stuff to Vultr?
That's what we are doing.
Including the ASO stuff?
That's all of our web right now. We have ASO paid for a bit, so not like moving overnight. Right now just the testing / development portion is going to a different "build it ourselves" platform. But yes, everything on ASO is slated to move to Vultr as we near the end of our ASO payment period.
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Just a quick cost estimate, we would get more speed and capacity on Vultr for $60/year paid monthly than we get on ASO for $200/year paid annually. So that's a $140 - $150 savings per year. Not too bad for an upgrade.
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Does that $60 plan cover everything you have? Are you going to install everything on a single server?
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Does that $60 plan cover everything you have? Are you going to install everything on a single server?
Yes, everything on one server. Everything is on one server with pretty much any provider, anyway. Cloudways is one server, too. One server is the industry standard until you are a Top ~50 site with insane traffic. If you get too big for a single server, you split your load by site, not by function, until single sites go beyond the single server threshold. Only then, when a single site is that enormous, that you consider splitting functions.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
Does that $60 plan cover everything you have? Are you going to install everything on a single server?
Keep in mind that we are talking BIG numbers when we talk about splitting. I know a certain site that runs on a single server and has topped 190 million requests in a single month and isn't even close to needing to split to more than one server. Estimates would put the need to split well into the billions of requests.
