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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

      If I see "private cloud" I automatically think virtualization a la VMware, etc, etc. A habit I see I should break, lol.

      The thing there is that clouds have virtualization, but it isn't virtualization that is the cloud. It's a building block of it, but not the final product. So VMware or KVM are commonly used in private clouds, but aren't themselves clouds. KVM is very popular in public clouds, too.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Scale HC3 is not a cloud, today. But it has the building blocks of one and is very, very close. In the SMB space, it's pretty much got all of the bits that people care about, so competes very closely.

        Part of the confusing things about cloud computing is that most people using cloud computing, like AWS, do not use it as intended and so confuse it with VPS. That makes everything harder.

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          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

          @dafyre said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

          If I see "private cloud" I automatically think virtualization a la VMware, etc, etc. A habit I see I should break, lol.

          The thing there is that clouds have virtualization, but it isn't virtualization that is the cloud. It's a building block of it, but not the final product. So VMware or KVM are commonly used in private clouds, but aren't themselves clouds. KVM is very popular in public clouds, too.

          Right. I need to start thinking "openstack" when I hear private cloud and not standard virtualization. Old habits and all that.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

            @scottalanmiller said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

            @dafyre said in When Cloud is Not What You Signed Up For:

            If I see "private cloud" I automatically think virtualization a la VMware, etc, etc. A habit I see I should break, lol.

            The thing there is that clouds have virtualization, but it isn't virtualization that is the cloud. It's a building block of it, but not the final product. So VMware or KVM are commonly used in private clouds, but aren't themselves clouds. KVM is very popular in public clouds, too.

            Right. I need to start thinking "openstack" when I hear private cloud and not standard virtualization. Old habits and all that.

            AWS does private cloud, too. OpenStack doesn't really imply anything. Rackspace runs on OpenStack for public, hosted cloud. But you can use it yourself for private, on premises cloud. OpenStack is versatile and literally can be used on any axis of cloud computing... private or public, hosted or on-premises, etc.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Basically it is private vs public (not shared vs shared)
              Then hosted vs self hosted (their computes or my computers)
              Then on premises or off premises (physical location)

              You can essentially have any one of each of those in any given deployment.

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