Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy
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@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Just as painful for the shipper, and the truck driver/air crew.
What? why would this be the case? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering why you think that?
I used to be that truck driver and did all the shipping for a small factory for a while. I know all about it if you really, really want to hear about it.
Wouldn't international make that easier though?
In what way? The electronic forms that only sometimes work correctly, the regulations on what types of pallets your allowed to use, along with customs inspectors that get around to checking shipments 3-4 weeks after the shipment has arrived on the dock? Trust me, it's much more difficult for the people involved with getting the shipment done.
By only needing to drive from one warehouse to another.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Just as painful for the shipper, and the truck driver/air crew.
What? why would this be the case? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering why you think that?
I used to be that truck driver and did all the shipping for a small factory for a while. I know all about it if you really, really want to hear about it.
Wouldn't international make that easier though?
In what way? The electronic forms that only sometimes work correctly, the regulations on what types of pallets your allowed to use, along with customs inspectors that get around to checking shipments 3-4 weeks after the shipment has arrived on the dock? Trust me, it's much more difficult for the people involved with getting the shipment done.
By only needing to drive from one warehouse to another.
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I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
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Scott - it might be worth just splitting this off before your whole thread is over run
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@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
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Then getting held up at customs as a truck driver. I was sitting waiting for 8 hours one day because they wanted to run a background check on my license. The time cost to doing anything across an international boarder is crazy.
Side note: This is why the Articles of Confederation (post revolutionary war, pre-constitution in the US for those that don't know) was an abject failure.
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@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
But is that extra work? Or just longer delivery times?
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@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Then getting held up at customs as a truck driver. I was sitting waiting for 8 hours one day because they wanted to run a background check on my license. The time cost to doing anything across an international boarder is crazy.
Side note: This is why the Articles of Confederation (post revolutionary war, pre-constitution in the US for those that don't know) was an abject failure.
Cost, sure. I've seen the truckers sleeping at the Nica / CR border. But it isn't hard, just... boring.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
But is that extra work? Or just longer delivery times?
It's both. Extra work because you have to get the customs forms filled out for every shipment, and longer delivery times.
To process a shipment going to Canada would typically take 3-4 minutes, whereas anything going to the US would take 20-30 seconds to process.
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@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
But is that extra work? Or just longer delivery times?
It's both. Extra work because you have to get the customs forms filled out for every shipment, and longer delivery times.
To process a shipment going to Canada would typically take 3-4 minutes, whereas anything going to the US would take 20-30 seconds to process.
The computers don't fill out the forms automatically?
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Did you look at Ubiquiti's website for resellers?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
But is that extra work? Or just longer delivery times?
It's both. Extra work because you have to get the customs forms filled out for every shipment, and longer delivery times.
To process a shipment going to Canada would typically take 3-4 minutes, whereas anything going to the US would take 20-30 seconds to process.
The computers don't fill out the forms automatically?
The computers COULD fill out the forms automatically, yes, but they're legally required to be verified by a person before being sent to customs.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@travisdh1 said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
I'm not sure where the driver comes into this? Don't they just, you know drive?
It's not like your taking the package all the way from someplace in the US to Scott's door in Italy. You're taking it from the sender's place and bringing it to the processing center, right?
That's what I thought. No need to find a house. All the international stuff should be trivial process boilerplate as it is done every day. If a shipper has to "figure anything out" they can't be much of a shipper.
Oh, they all have everything all figured out. It just takes so much more time to do anything with any international shipment.
Quick example. The airplane that flies between Toledo, OH and Shanghai China only makes a round trip every 3 days. They have 2 flight crews, and could make the round trip in 34-36 hours. It just takes all those extra hours to get customs clearance for the thousands of shipments being sent across boarders on that airplane.
But is that extra work? Or just longer delivery times?
It's both. Extra work because you have to get the customs forms filled out for every shipment, and longer delivery times.
To process a shipment going to Canada would typically take 3-4 minutes, whereas anything going to the US would take 20-30 seconds to process.
The computers don't fill out the forms automatically?
Remember, your dealing with the US government here, which means you have no logic allowed.
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Not even one in Rome or Milan, let alone the southern half of the country, let alone the island
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Could be worse, here is a full continent...
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Assuming the home owner is a local, will they allow a package to be sent to them?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Pretty simple, need some minor UBNT gear in Italy. ER-X would do, USG might be better. And an entry level AP. No idea where to find them or if you can.
Tagging @Dominica @Francesco-Provino
As long as you are in a member country of the European Union, it's pretty simple to buy stuff from a vendor in another EU country, even tax-wise. So you are not limited to Italy, IMHO.
But it looks like your options are limited when you want to get one at a local store
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@Dashrender said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Assuming the home owner is a local, will they allow a package to be sent to them?
They are not. They are in Rome.
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@thwr said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to buy Ubiquiti in Italy:
Pretty simple, need some minor UBNT gear in Italy. ER-X would do, USG might be better. And an entry level AP. No idea where to find them or if you can.
Tagging @Dominica @Francesco-Provino
As long as you are in a member country of the European Union, it's pretty simple to buy stuff from a vendor in another EU country, even tax-wise. So you are not limited to Italy, IMHO.
But it looks like your options are limited when you want to get one at a local store
It's shipping that we can't do. There are no stores locally and we've had things shipped to us in Spain before and it took months because we don't own the place where we live.
