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    XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!

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    • momurdaM
      momurda @momurda
      last edited by

      Unless you have a DC that you can get working, ie one not attached to your shared storage. Perhaps you have a physical dc somewhere? Unlikely i know.

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      • sealS
        seal
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        @CitrixNewbJD This is Frank. I hope Scott and the gang here can help get you back operational quickly. To touch on a topic that was mentioned earlier, VMs from Xen can be imported and converted on the fly. As long as the Scale nodes can browse to the VM files (.vhd) on the storage, the XenServer functional state doesn't matter.

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          CitrixNewbJD @momurda
          last edited by

          @momurda

          Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC. Despite my warnings, because I know that we do not currently have one here, I was told to bring it all down. And here we are. We do not have a physical DC.

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            CitrixNewbJD @momurda
            last edited by

            @momurda

            I've been using the root authentication for everything.

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              CitrixNewbJD @seal
              last edited by

              @seal

              Frank, can we speak on the phone for a minute so I can be sure I can intelligently talk to the guy when demanding his money?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
                last edited by

                @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                @momurda

                Having been through this once before, and learning the hard way, I do normally have a physical DC.

                This is absolutely the wrong response. You should never have a physical DC, ever. There is zero issues here with virtualization. There are two problems....

                • Zero AD redundancy
                • An inverted pyramid of doom (single storage for all systems)

                Fixing either of those anti-practices would have saved you. Physical would have zero benefit and is the polar opposite of the reaction that you should have.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
                  last edited by

                  @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                  @momurda

                  I've been using the root authentication for everything.

                  So we are safe there.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    More on the IPOD: http://www.smbitjournal.com/2013/06/the-inverted-pyramid-of-doom/

                    And in video form from MangoCon:

                    Youtube Video

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                      CitrixNewbJD
                      last edited by

                      So, when looking for places to turn off AD integration, I see this...

                      0_1482873847039_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.23.59.png

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        It's not pool integration that is the issue, it's SAN integration. Check the SAN (PowerVault) interface instead.

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                          CitrixNewbJD
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                          @seal Just came across these two items on the SAN interface. Dental_Data, Spindlemedia, are critical and it looks like those VDs failed.

                          PROFILE FOR STORAGE ARRAY: MDS-Spindle01 (12/27/16 3:28:58 PM) 
                           
                           
                          STANDARD VIRTUAL DISKS------------------------------ 
                           
                          SUMMARY 
                           
                             Number of standard virtual disks: 3 
                           
                             See other Virtual Disks sub-tabs for premium feature information. 
                           
                           
                             NAME          STATUS  CAPACITY  RAID LEVEL  DISK GROUP  DRIVE TYPE   
                             Dental_Data   Failed  1.495 TB  5           0           SAS          
                             SpindleMedia  Failed  2.862 TB  5           0           SAS          
                             Virtual       Failed  1.367 TB  5           0           SAS          
                           
                          DETAILS 
                           
                           
                             Virtual Disk name:                      Dental_Data                                       
                                                                                                                       
                                Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                       
                                Capacity:                            1.495 TB                                          
                                Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:7b:78:6a:00:00:04:13:4a:96:70:f3   
                                Subsystem ID (SSID):                 1                                                 
                                Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                       
                                Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                       
                                Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                                Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                           
                           
                                Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                Modification priority:                              High       
                           
                           
                                Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                   Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                   Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                           
                           
                             Virtual Disk name:                      SpindleMedia                                      
                                                                                                                       
                                Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                       
                                Capacity:                            2.862 TB                                          
                                Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:07:f5:4d:ba:7b:fb   
                                Subsystem ID (SSID):                 2                                                 
                                Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                       
                                Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                       
                                Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                                Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                           
                           
                                Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                Modification priority:                              High       
                           
                           
                                Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                   Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                   Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                           
                           
                             Virtual Disk name:                      Virtual                                           
                                                                                                                       
                                Virtual Disk status:                 Failed                                            
                                                                                                                       
                                Capacity:                            1.367 TB                                          
                                Virtual Disk world-wide identifier:  60:02:4e:80:00:70:ed:06:00:00:04:31:4a:96:73:09   
                                Subsystem ID (SSID):                 0                                                 
                                Associated disk group:               0                                                 
                                RAID level:                          5                                                 
                                                                                                                       
                                Physical Disk type:                  Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)                        
                                Enclosure loss protection:           No                                                
                                                                                                                       
                                Preferred owner:                     RAID Controller Module in slot 0                  
                                Current owner:                       RAID Controller Module in slot 1                  
                           
                           
                                Segment size:                                       128 KB     
                                Capacity reserved for future segment size changes:  Yes        
                                Maximum future segment size:                        2,048 KB   
                                Modification priority:                              High       
                           
                           
                                Read cache:                            Enabled    
                                Write cache:                           Enabled    
                                   Write cache without batteries:      Disabled   
                                   Write cache with mirroring:         Enabled    
                                Flush write cache after (in seconds):  10.00      
                                Dynamic cache read prefetch:           Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Enable background media scan:          Enabled    
                                Media scan with consistency check:     Enabled    
                                                                                  
                                Pre-Read consistency check:            Disabled   
                          

                          0_1482874726865_Screenshot 2016-12-27 15.38.36.png

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Oh look, on top of everything else, they left you with RAID 5, too. Figures. Whoever set this up really set you up for failure.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Your predecessor definitely pulled this on you: https://mangolassi.it/topic/11852/why-it-builds-a-house-of-cards

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Looks like, on top of other problems, the SAN has died. It's hard to tell from this, but it looks like those are the LUNs that hold all of your VMs?

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda
                                  last edited by

                                  So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                                  Did you lose a RAID Controller?

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear God I pray that you have backups outside of the environment. Please tell me that you do. Another NAS, tapes, diskettes, something?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      @momurda said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                      So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                                      Did you lose a RAID Controller?

                                      It's a dual controller device. So in theory it should fail over. But in reality, they rarely do.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                                        last edited by

                                        @NerdyDad said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                        Dear God I pray that you have backups outside of the environment. Please tell me that you do. Another NAS, tapes, diskettes, something?

                                        At this point, recovering from backup to a new cluster might be the best way to go. The SAN is worthless if the arrays have failed. And the local servers probably don't have the necessary storage to run without it. If the array is really lost, the old hardware has probably dropped to a zero value level. Time to get something new in and recover to that ASAP.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                          @momurda said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                          So 2 drives failed at once? You should be able to go into the server room and see some sort of blinky light pattern that indicates what/how many drives are gone.
                                          Did you lose a RAID Controller?

                                          It's a dual controller device. So in theory it should fail over. But in reality, they rarely do.

                                          But if drives are lost, that won't help.

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                                          • sealS
                                            seal
                                            last edited by

                                            Isn't this saying the virtual drives for each failed? This should be different than a physical drive failure, right? Or am I reading something wrong?

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