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    • AmbarishrhA
      Ambarishrh @coliver
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      @coliver how good is the search functionality and sync speed? From my experience i think dropbox is still the best in terms of sync speed + LAN sync to other devices on the same network if needed

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Ambarishrh
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        @Ambarishrh said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

        @coliver how good is the search functionality and sync speed? From my experience i think dropbox is still the best in terms of sync speed + LAN sync to other devices on the same network if needed

        Sync speed depends on your connection. When I did my initial upload of 1TB of images and videos I was maxing out my 5Mbps connection. Took a few weeks. Since then we have the app on our mobile devices and as soon as you take a picture it uploads to the account. After every trip I upload pictures taken with our point-and-shoot and I don't really notice it.

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        • AmbarishrhA
          Ambarishrh @coliver
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          @coliver said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

          @Ambarishrh said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

          @coliver how good is the search functionality and sync speed? From my experience i think dropbox is still the best in terms of sync speed + LAN sync to other devices on the same network if needed

          Sync speed depends on your connection. When I did my initial upload of 1TB of images and videos I was maxing out my 5Mbps connection. Took a few weeks. Since then we have the app on our mobile devices and as soon as you take a picture it uploads to the account. After every trip I upload pictures taken with our point-and-shoot and I don't really notice it.

          Signed up for 3 months Amazon trial, copied a video file of 5.25 GB file and started syncing on both Amazon and Dropbox. (Not sure why Amazon drive shows it as 4.89 GB!)
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          • AmbarishrhA
            Ambarishrh @Ambarishrh
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            • AmbarishrhA
              Ambarishrh
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              I think it boils down to speed vs storage & price

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              • C
                Carnival Boy
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                I definitely recommend plenty of redundancy. That's why I use both Yahoo and Google. I'd never trust one provider with a lifetime of photos. I read recently about Google shutting down people's account because they didn't like the way they'd bought some Google Pixel phones (something about a shipping scam across US states?). The idea of them just deleting all your photos is pretty scary - especially when it relates to a completely different and unrelated product.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Ambarishrh
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                  @Ambarishrh said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                  I think it boils down to speed vs storage & price

                  Very well could be, but the upload rate maxed out my connection so it was good enough for what we need.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                    @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                    I definitely recommend plenty of redundancy. That's why I use both Yahoo and Google. I'd never trust one provider with a lifetime of photos. I read recently about Google shutting down people's account because they didn't like the way they'd bought some Google Pixel phones (something about a shipping scam across US states?). The idea of them just deleting all your photos is pretty scary - especially when it relates to a completely different and unrelated product.

                    That's one of the nice things about paying for Flickr, they can't legally delete your photos on a whim.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                      @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                      I definitely recommend plenty of redundancy. That's why I use both Yahoo and Google. I'd never trust one provider with a lifetime of photos. I read recently about Google shutting down people's account because they didn't like the way they'd bought some Google Pixel phones (something about a shipping scam across US states?). The idea of them just deleting all your photos is pretty scary - especially when it relates to a completely different and unrelated product.

                      That's one of the nice things about paying for Flickr, they can't legally delete your photos on a whim.

                      And you're saying that Google can legally delete your photos on a whim when you've paid them money?

                      In the case @Carnival-Boy mentions, the people did pay for a Google Pixel, and part of that payment included unlimited at native resolution the use of Google Photos cloud storage.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                        @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                        I definitely recommend plenty of redundancy. That's why I use both Yahoo and Google. I'd never trust one provider with a lifetime of photos. I read recently about Google shutting down people's account because they didn't like the way they'd bought some Google Pixel phones (something about a shipping scam across US states?). The idea of them just deleting all your photos is pretty scary - especially when it relates to a completely different and unrelated product.

                        That's one of the nice things about paying for Flickr, they can't legally delete your photos on a whim.

                        And you're saying that Google can legally delete your photos on a whim when you've paid them money?

                        Can you pay them money? Is there any paid service with them? There wasn't last I checked.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                          In the case @Carnival-Boy mentions, the people did pay for a Google Pixel, and part of that payment included unlimited at native resolution the use of Google Photos cloud storage.

                          I'd have to see the wording of "includes". Was it REALLY paid for as a service? If so, they could not delete. I think there is likely something missed here or else there would have been lawsuits.

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                            Carnival Boy
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                            You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                            With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                              @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                              You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                              With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

                              Well the service that I pay Flickr for is a backup service. If they delete my account, that's bad faith and unquestionably illegal in the US. It's "intent to defraud".

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                I definitely recommend plenty of redundancy. That's why I use both Yahoo and Google. I'd never trust one provider with a lifetime of photos. I read recently about Google shutting down people's account because they didn't like the way they'd bought some Google Pixel phones (something about a shipping scam across US states?). The idea of them just deleting all your photos is pretty scary - especially when it relates to a completely different and unrelated product.

                                That's one of the nice things about paying for Flickr, they can't legally delete your photos on a whim.

                                And you're saying that Google can legally delete your photos on a whim when you've paid them money?

                                Can you pay them money? Is there any paid service with them? There wasn't last I checked.

                                Yes, google has storage fees based upon how much you want to store. Not that that should matter, you are buying unlimited photo storage as part of your phone purchase - though I suppose they could claim that since you got the phone illegally, then the contract is null and void.
                                But I have no sympathy for those that are skirting the law. What I don't know - did the end buyers know that they were skirting the law? I have a feeling they did.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                  You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                                  With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

                                  You still only get so much free space in Drive. After that you must pay.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                    @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                    You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                                    With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

                                    Well the service that I pay Flickr for is a backup service. If they delete my account, that's bad faith and unquestionably illegal in the US. It's "intent to defraud".

                                    Interesting - backup that allows all of the things the OP wants? seems - weird and somehow not like a real backup - unless Flickr has a specific backup account type that doesn't have the features that the OP wants.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                      though I suppose they could claim that since you got the phone illegally, then the contract is null and void.

                                      Correct. That's as plain as plain can be. So if the phone is gotten illegally there was no service to even cancel as the service use was stolen. So that answers that question.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                        @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                        You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                                        With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

                                        Well the service that I pay Flickr for is a backup service. If they delete my account, that's bad faith and unquestionably illegal in the US. It's "intent to defraud".

                                        Interesting - backup that allows all of the things the OP wants? seems - weird and somehow not like a real backup - unless Flickr has a specific backup account type that doesn't have the features that the OP wants.

                                        What do you mean?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                          @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                          though I suppose they could claim that since you got the phone illegally, then the contract is null and void.

                                          Correct. That's as plain as plain can be. So if the phone is gotten illegally there was no service to even cancel as the service use was stolen. So that answers that question.

                                          Well it's not like the phone was stolen.

                                          There was a shell game played that allowed people to pay zero or a lower amount of sales tax than they should have paid. But I guess how the law was broken doesn't really matter, only that it was.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                            @Dashrender said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                            @Carnival-Boy said in Photo storage -Flickr vs Google photos vs ?:

                                            You're saying these companies can't cancel your account if you've paid them? I'm not sure. I've heard too many stories about accounts getting cancelled. For example, Amazon cancelling accounts for returning to many faulty items and then you can't access your Kindle books or use your Amazon Firestick. Maybe they can't cancel during the subscription term, but if it's only monthly you could easily get caught out.

                                            With regards to paying Google, yes, Google photos requires payment if you want to store photos at full resolution. I don't. It's done via Drive.

                                            Well the service that I pay Flickr for is a backup service. If they delete my account, that's bad faith and unquestionably illegal in the US. It's "intent to defraud".

                                            Interesting - backup that allows all of the things the OP wants? seems - weird and somehow not like a real backup - unless Flickr has a specific backup account type that doesn't have the features that the OP wants.

                                            What do you mean?

                                            If you can edit the backups, the actual live backups, then are they really backups at all?

                                            I'll give the search/indexing stuff are part of backups - the part that allows you to find and recover files (though most people would be using it for their own version of production, not as a recovery).

                                            i.e. when I go into my google photos account, I'm not searching for things so I can redownload them to my computer to recover something I changed/deleted, etc, I'm finding them in google photos so I can do whatever work on them there, in google photos.

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