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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Danp
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      @Danp said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      @Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/editions.html

      Thanks.

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      • openitO
        openit @hobbit666
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        @hobbit666 said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

        Your best bet is to install Ubuntu and use the script
        sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer/master/xo_install.sh | bash

        see this thread.
        https://www.mangolassi.it/topic/7349/xen-orchestra-on-ubuntu-15-10-complete-installation-instructions

        Okay, noted to check it out later.

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        • openitO
          openit @Danp
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          @Danp said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

          @Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/editions.html

          How about VM backup in XenCenter or Xen-Orchestra Free ?

          1. XenCenter : When I googled, there is backup option via Bash or manual way.....
          2. XO Free: No VM backup too 😞 ?

          This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

          Create VMs, SRs etc.
          Access to web consoles
          Edit resources (VM, pools etc.)
          Make snapshots
          Migrate VMs
          
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @openit
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            @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

            1. XenCenter : When I googled, there is backup option via Bash or manual way.....

            XC is only control, not features. And there are reasons that we never use or recommend it. Ignore that it even exists.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @openit
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              @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

              1. XO Free: No VM backup too 😞 ?

              It absolutely does, @DustinB3403 uses it and people talk about it all the time. @olivier has been posting about the awesome new backup features that they are working on adding, as well.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @openit
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                @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

                You are looking at XOA, not XO. That's the problem. People do that all the time and get SO confused. Everything in XO is totally free, but NOT if you try to use XOA. You can't use the appliance and get stuff for free.

                XOA is the fully supported, commercial packaged appliance version. This costs money if you want the features, but comes with inclusive support.

                We don't mean XOA when we say XO and the script you are talking about above is for XO. XO is 100% free and open. We recommend you get support both to have support and to support the vendor, of course. But for testing or if you just don't have the budget, stick with standard XO for free and you get all of the features (except support.)

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                • openitO
                  openit @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                  @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                  This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

                  You are looking at XOA, not XO. That's the problem. People do that all the time and get SO confused. Everything in XO is totally free, but NOT if you try to use XOA. You can't use the appliance and get stuff for free.

                  XOA is the fully supported, commercial packaged appliance version. This costs money if you want the features, but comes with inclusive support.

                  We don't mean XOA when we say XO and the script you are talking about above is for XO. XO is 100% free and open. We recommend you get support both to have support and to support the vendor, of course. But for testing or if you just don't have the budget, stick with standard XO for free and you get all of the features (except support.)

                  Okay, I understand now, noted 🙂

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Right now the backup capabilities of XO are pretty basic. It's image based backups like Veeam or Unitrends do, but it does not have the additional technology to open up the backups and pull out individual files. To do that you need to mount the snaps yourself and go through them to grab individual files. In some cases you might need additional tooling from a third party if you want to extract emails from an Exchange database, for example.

                    But that kind of stuff XO is working on and maybe we will see that included in the future as well, a la Veeam.

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier
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                      @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @olivier
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                        @olivier said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                        @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

                        Oh wow, way sooner than I had imagined!

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                        • openitO
                          openit @olivier
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                          @olivier said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                          @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

                          Thank You 🙂

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
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                            That's exciting @olivier looking forward to seeing that in action.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              I'm definitely super interested to see how this will work.

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                              • olivierO
                                olivier
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                                This is currently a large amount of work (therefore cost for us) to be able to read VHD files (explaining it will be in Premium version of XOA) and do all the needed stuff on top. But I hope we'll be on time!

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                                • openitO
                                  openit
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                                  Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                  Th@k$ !!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @openit
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                                    @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                    Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                    Th@k$ !!

                                    Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

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                                    • openitO
                                      openit @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                      @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                      Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                      Th@k$ !!

                                      Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

                                      Huh ?
                                      what do you mean by dark side 🙂 ?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @openit
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                                        @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                        @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                        Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                        Th@k$ !!

                                        Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

                                        Huh ?
                                        what do you mean by dark side 🙂 ?

                                        Good IT, it's always the dark side.

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                                        • S
                                          StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                          Right now the backup capabilities of XO are pretty basic. It's image based backups like Veeam or Unitrends do, but it does not have the additional technology to open up the backups and pull out individual files. To do that you need to mount the snaps yourself and go through them to grab individual files. In some cases you might need additional tooling from a third party if you want to extract emails from an Exchange database, for example.
                                          But that kind of stuff XO is working on and maybe we will see that included in the future as well, a la Veeam.

                                          They have Deduplication/compression yet?

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier @StorageNinja
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                                            @John-Nicholson This is something you can do easily on your NFS/SMB remote (eg with ZFS), and because it will be handled transparently at the FS level, no problem with XO.

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