This Is Who Is Teaching College
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@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
Me? I was held back in some classes. My school didn't offer "graduate early" to anyone, even people who finished all classes a year early. NY heavily discourages early graduation. But I had no chance to because I went to a private school K-8 and was years behind the public school system going into ninth grade. I had to be in remedial classes in some subjects to get me back up to speed with public school kids. Math was the key thing, I was only at like fifth or maybe sixth grade math level going into high school.
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@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
It's hard in NYS. I was ineligible because of a gym class.
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@coliver said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
It's hard in NYS. I was ineligible because of a gym class.
NY works really hard to make sure that no one gets an advantage and that everyone is held back.
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@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
Me? I was held back in some classes. My school didn't offer "graduate early" to anyone, even people who finished all classes a year early. NY heavily discourages early graduation. But I had no chance to because I went to a private school K-8 and was years behind the public school system going into ninth grade. I had to be in remedial classes in some subjects to get me back up to speed with public school kids. Math was the key thing, I was only at like fifth or maybe sixth grade math level going into high school.
WHAT? really? a private school that sucked that bad? I've never heard of such a thing.. I suppose mediocrity exists everywhere.
I was a bit behind as well when I returned to the states after living in Guam for 2 years, but I was caught up in under a year.
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@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
Me? I was held back in some classes. My school didn't offer "graduate early" to anyone, even people who finished all classes a year early. NY heavily discourages early graduation. But I had no chance to because I went to a private school K-8 and was years behind the public school system going into ninth grade. I had to be in remedial classes in some subjects to get me back up to speed with public school kids. Math was the key thing, I was only at like fifth or maybe sixth grade math level going into high school.
WHAT? really? a private school that sucked that bad? I've never heard of such a thing.. I suppose mediocrity exists everywhere.
I was a bit behind as well when I returned to the states after living in Guam for 2 years, but I was caught up in under a year.
You haven't heard of bad private schools? That doesn't sound right...
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@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
WHAT? really? a private school that sucked that bad? I've never heard of such a thing.. I suppose mediocrity exists everywhere.
Actually that's the more common case. Private schools are typically far behind public schools. Like the average home schooling, most private schools exist to isolate, not to educate. There can be awesome private schools, and there are, but the most common case is that they don't use qualified teachers as there are no requirements for teachers and don't teach anywhere near a minimum standard. My own school, if you stayed until senior year, had only a single class for girls - makeup and homemaking. I kid you not.
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To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
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@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
LOL - This might be different in different areas, I don't believe Omaha has any non religion based private schools. There are some that downplay the religion aspects, but there are core classes of religion that are still required.
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@coliver said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender I was 18.25 when I graduated.
I guess I'm a bit surprised you didn't graduate early.
Me? I was held back in some classes. My school didn't offer "graduate early" to anyone, even people who finished all classes a year early. NY heavily discourages early graduation. But I had no chance to because I went to a private school K-8 and was years behind the public school system going into ninth grade. I had to be in remedial classes in some subjects to get me back up to speed with public school kids. Math was the key thing, I was only at like fifth or maybe sixth grade math level going into high school.
WHAT? really? a private school that sucked that bad? I've never heard of such a thing.. I suppose mediocrity exists everywhere.
I was a bit behind as well when I returned to the states after living in Guam for 2 years, but I was caught up in under a year.
You haven't heard of bad private schools? That doesn't sound right...
Nope, really haven't. again I'm probably isolated from this because I don't have kids and don't pay attention to most things related to schooling them.
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@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
LOL - This might be different in different areas, I don't believe Omaha has any non religion based private schools. There are some that downplay the religion aspects, but there are core classes of religion that are still required.
Then you've definitely heard of ones with poor educations
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@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Dashrender said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
LOL - This might be different in different areas, I don't believe Omaha has any non religion based private schools. There are some that downplay the religion aspects, but there are core classes of religion that are still required.
Then you've definitely heard of ones with poor educations
generally around here I hear about how poor education is in public schools compared to private. i.e. if you want your kid to get a good education, private school is a must.
In the super tiny amount of exposure I get, I have a friend who is sending his 7 year old daughter to private school.. he's amazed about how kids in her school are doing calculus in 6th grade - really he's just trying to brag. I'm like whatever. If the motivation is there and the child has an amplitude, sure why not.
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@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
So much this!
I include home schoolers in that as well. So many folks I know that were home schooled (or are being homeschooled) have such a limited world view (limited to what their parents are teaching them within incredibly strict religious boundaries). This does nothing to prepare the kids for real life -- even less so than modern public schools.
Edit: That's not to say that all home schooling is bad, but if you're going to home school a child, teach them about the real world, and history, and math, and science, and not just "God Says..."
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@dafyre said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
So much this!
I include home schoolers in that as well. So many folks I know that were home schooled (or are being homeschooled) have such a limited world view (limited to what their parents are teaching them within incredibly strict religious boundaries). This does nothing to prepare the kids for real life -- even less so than modern public schools.
Edit: That's not to say that all home schooling is bad, but if you're going to home school a child, teach them about the real world, and history, and math, and science, and not just "God Says..."
I said the same thing about homeschooling above, and we homeschool so....
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@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
The funny thing is that even most Real Private schools, I include charter schools in on this as well, have been shown to not be as effective as public school. Are there exceptions, of course, some charter schools are exemplary for what their charter is and how they follow it.
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@coliver said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
The funny thing is that even most Real Private schools, I include charter schools in on this as well, have been shown to not be as effective as public school. Are there exceptions, of course, some charter schools are exemplary for what their charter is and how they follow it.
It's very, very hard for private schools to compete. As schools they basically bring all of the baggage and problems that public schools have, plus have smaller budgets, less of the social normality benefits, strict rules and are often curtailed by the public school system (sometimes they are not allowed to do some things because of what local public schools device.)
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@Minion-Queen said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
To be clear there is a difference between a REAL private school and a Christian Private school. REAL Private schools are all about the high level of academics. Most Christian schools are all about the not teaching anything that could be related to the real world.
Around here it a mix of public and private schools as to which is the better education. Inner city schools in Cleveland and Columbus, the only private schools are Catholic, and the quality of the education is really quite bad and the public schools are probably better. Get out into the smaller cities/towns and the quality of private schools goes way up. Yes, most still are based around a religion, but that doesn't stop them from teaching real science, math, etc.
I attended a private school, and would not have done very well in the public schools I could have attended (yes, I had multiple schools I could attend.) The grading scale at the private school was still A- at 95%, A at 98%, nobody carried an A+ average. I only skimmed by on a B average at that school. When I got back to the "public" school system at the county career center, that suddenly changed!
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The public schools in my area had A+ at around 98 but kept giving grades to around 110. So the scale was... skewed a bit for marketing purposes.
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@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
The public schools in my area had A+ at around 98 but kept giving grades to around 110. So the scale was... skewed a bit for marketing purposes.
Don't I wish they pulled the same thing around here, of course I would've learned a LOT less as well.
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@travisdh1 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
The public schools in my area had A+ at around 98 but kept giving grades to around 110. So the scale was... skewed a bit for marketing purposes.
Don't I wish they pulled the same thing around here, of course I would've learned a LOT less as well.
They were tricky, they used a 5.0 scale but would fill in college applications that use a 4.0 scale using the raw grades. So everyone got an enormous points boost. The whole thing was an enormous scam. And I know that some Ivy League schools accepted the 5.0 scale trick for admissions which speaks very poorly of them.
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@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@travisdh1 said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
@scottalanmiller said in This Is Who Is Teaching College:
The public schools in my area had A+ at around 98 but kept giving grades to around 110. So the scale was... skewed a bit for marketing purposes.
Don't I wish they pulled the same thing around here, of course I would've learned a LOT less as well.
They were tricky, they used a 5.0 scale but would fill in college applications that use a 4.0 scale using the raw grades. So everyone got an enormous points boost. The whole thing was an enormous scam. And I know that some Ivy League schools accepted the 5.0 scale trick for admissions which speaks very poorly of them.
Yeah, that bit is just nuts.
