Binge Watching
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@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
What I'm trying to say is: I got a really good theory that Mike's dad from Stranger Things is up to something nefarious and I want to discuss it.
Dude, spoilers... I may still remember that by the time I get around to watching.
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@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
I think you still get that social aspect of the "we are all watching this together" with binging, especially in conjunction with social media.
I feel like you get it more. Now less mainstream communities, which is a lot of people, can participate too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Binge Watching:
@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
I think you still get that social aspect of the "we are all watching this together" with binging, especially in conjunction with social media.
I feel like you get it more. Now less mainstream communities, which is a lot of people, can participate too.
I AM THE VOICE OF A GENERATION, SCOTT.
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@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
Sorry, but to expand on my last point--I'm more than willing to discuss shows I've already watched, especially if someone has just finished it. I like hearing about their flash reactions and how they're processing the story and compare it to what I think.
What I'm trying to say is: I got a really good theory that Mike's dad from Stranger Things is up to something nefarious and I want to discuss it.
I watched 1.5 episodes of that show and had to get out... bored me to near death.
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@Kelly but I'm right and he's wrong, so all is good.
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@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
I watched 1.5 episodes of that show and had to get out... bored me to near death.
I could not finish the first episode. So I am not sure if it is just me or what. The premise did not seem bad.
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@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
What I'm trying to say is: I got a really good theory that Mike's dad from Stranger Things is up to something nefarious and I want to discuss it.
I watched 1.5 episodes of that show and had to get out... bored me to near death.
STICK WITH IT! I thought the first couple of episodes were boring, the third one was just ok, and from 4 onwards I was on the edge of my seat. In the final episode I was crying like a baby.
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@scottalanmiller said in Binge Watching:
So let's use stats. The most watched show in the US right now is BBT with just under 21m viewers. That's not 21m interested viewers, that's not 21m "really like the show" viewers. That's 21m people for whom the television was on in their house. The number of people who like it, are engaged, paid attention, etc. is a fraction of that.
The US population is over 330m. So that means that only 15% of the nation even sees the show, at all,
21m is not 15% of 330, it's 6%. The top show in the UK is Bake Off which gets 14m viewers from a population of 64m, or 21%. That's a huge number of people watching a show. I believe that's only people watching it live as well. We definitely have far more of a shared TV experience here. It's obviously less than it was - over 30m people saw Den serving Angie divorce papers in Eastenders in 1986 - over half the population.
I guess a small country has a less diverse cultural landscape.
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@JaredBusch said in Binge Watching:
Knight rider, Dallas(who shot JR), quantum leap, full house, cheers, etc. are things that would be examples.
Never heard of Full House. Along with Dallas, Miami Vice and Friends were massive here. Cheers was huge, but Seinfeld never was strangely.
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And Bay Watch! Happy days!!
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@Carnival-Boy said in Binge Watching:
@JaredBusch said in Binge Watching:
Knight rider, Dallas(who shot JR), quantum leap, full house, cheers, etc. are things that would be examples.
Never heard of Full House. Along with Dallas, Miami Vice and Friends were massive here. Cheers was huge, but Seinfeld never was strangely.
Full House was the "last" of the great 1980s style sitcoms. It came out in the late 1980s and ran through the 1990s. It survived extra well because it had a long run and unlike most of its main competitors it had it's syndication rights in the clear so has been able to be released on DVD and then to Netflix.
It's so popular that Netflix bought the rights to continue the series and it is now making a sequel show called Fuller House that picks up 29 years after the original began using the original cast and is actually very good.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Binge Watching:
@scottalanmiller said in Binge Watching:
So let's use stats. The most watched show in the US right now is BBT with just under 21m viewers. That's not 21m interested viewers, that's not 21m "really like the show" viewers. That's 21m people for whom the television was on in their house. The number of people who like it, are engaged, paid attention, etc. is a fraction of that.
The US population is over 330m. So that means that only 15% of the nation even sees the show, at all,
21m is not 15% of 330, it's 6%. The top show in the UK is Bake Off which gets 14m viewers from a population of 64m, or 21%. That's a huge number of people watching a show. I believe that's only people watching it live as well. We definitely have far more of a shared TV experience here. It's obviously less than it was - over 30m people saw Den serving Angie divorce papers in Eastenders in 1986 - over half the population.
I guess a small country has a less diverse cultural landscape.
Oh yeah, no idea how my math was so bad. Only 6% for the top show of the year is positively tiny.
It's funny, when I was looking through the list of the top shows this year, I only knew about half of them.
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@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
Sorry, but to expand on my last point--I'm more than willing to discuss shows I've already watched, especially if someone has just finished it. I like hearing about their flash reactions and how they're processing the story and compare it to what I think.
What I'm trying to say is: I got a really good theory that Mike's dad from Stranger Things is up to something nefarious and I want to discuss it.
I watched 1.5 episodes of that show and had to get out... bored me to near death.
It does start slow, I'll give you that, but it seriously ramps up once things start falling into place. I'd say give it to at least the 4th or 5th episode. For me, it hit that "what if this was me and my friends" nostalgia spot so maybe I'm biased.
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@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
@ChrisL said in Binge Watching:
Sorry, but to expand on my last point--I'm more than willing to discuss shows I've already watched, especially if someone has just finished it. I like hearing about their flash reactions and how they're processing the story and compare it to what I think.
What I'm trying to say is: I got a really good theory that Mike's dad from Stranger Things is up to something nefarious and I want to discuss it.
I watched 1.5 episodes of that show and had to get out... bored me to near death.
It does start slow, I'll give you that, but it seriously ramps up once things start falling into place. I'd say give it to at least the 4th or 5th episode. For me, it hit that "what if this was me and my friends" nostalgia spot so maybe I'm biased.
That's HORRIBLE! I have to sit through 3 hours of shoot me in the face before I'd care about it? The writers should be fired - well the whole project team should be canned. I give most shows 2 episodes to hook me. The first one is generally so busy giving you character background and the actors are learning to work together, but if you don't have a compelling story by the end of EP2, you've failed.
I might give it another go just because I keep hearing "how bloodly awesome it is", but under any normal metric, that show would never get another eye grab from me.
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@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
That's HORRIBLE! I have to sit through 3 hours of shoot me in the face before I'd care about it? The writers should be fired - well the whole project team should be canned. I give most shows 2 episodes to hook me.
I was thinking the opposite, it's horrible that show writers feel the need to hit people with all of the hooks and interest in the first few minutes or risk the short attention spans causing people to not keep watching. This is why shows and movies keep moving towards the more and more banal - people don't get engaged in the stories. They need constant action or they don't stick with it.
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@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
...but if you
don'tneed to have a compelling story by the end of EP2, you've failed....... as a viewer.
FTFY
Try reading some classic literature, how often is the story gripping and intense in the first chapter? How often does this happen in the best books or even the best movies?
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Look at Asimov's writings, arguably the greatest science fiction writer of all time.... zero action for forever. Or Lewis or Tolkien in the fantasy genres, nothing "compelling" up front. They trust their audience to hang in there.
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@scottalanmiller said in Binge Watching:
@Dashrender said in Binge Watching:
That's HORRIBLE! I have to sit through 3 hours of shoot me in the face before I'd care about it? The writers should be fired - well the whole project team should be canned. I give most shows 2 episodes to hook me.
I was thinking the opposite, it's horrible that show writers feel the need to hit people with all of the hooks and interest in the first few minutes or risk the short attention spans causing people to not keep watching. This is why shows and movies keep moving towards the more and more banal - people don't get engaged in the stories. They need constant action or they don't stick with it.
Especially with Stranger Things, which was likely written as one cohesive story and then broken up into "episodes". You gotta build the foundation before you add the slick whirpool jacuzzi, @Dashrender
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@ChrisL
Yes, that show was like an extra long episode of the XFiles, I enjoyed it.
I just watched The Wire (all 5 seasons) in the last 2 weeks. Never ever had cable (still don't) so it was new to me. That was pretty good too.
