Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!
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yeah, the Pi isn't super fast and yes, something could be included. But contrary to what you might think, it would inflate the price extremely significant. We're making thousands, not millions of these, and creating a custom ARM board... that is not feasible.
We did make the box compatible with the oDroid C2, though I'm not sure yet when the software will be able to handle it.
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With a Pi3, the slowdown is going to be the USB interface to the drive. Not a terrible little box. Would be nice to see it include a Pi at least. I can understand that doing a custom board doesn't make sense.
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@Jason said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
IMO it should have just had a ARM based chip already in it. not require people to get a raspberry pi for it.
Which just means making a kit that has the RP2 included already. Nothing more complex than that.
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@jospoortvliet Glad to see the continuation of the old project. Only wish that there was a good RAID 1 option for this, but I know why there isn't (yet).
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@mattel said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
I'd second Jason's comment.
I had looked at this device, but I'm more concerned with the hardware limitations of the pi2 than I would be of anything else. We have Cterra C200 devices currently and even though they have gigabit ethernet they often often can sustain read / write speeds in the 100mbit range because the CPU on the controller is just maxed out.
A single SATA drive is likely going to be the bottleneck here, though.
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@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
yeah, the Pi isn't super fast and yes, something could be included. But contrary to what you might think, it would inflate the price extremely significant. We're making thousands, not millions of these, and creating a custom ARM board... that is not feasible.
We did make the box compatible with the oDroid C2, though I'm not sure yet when the software will be able to handle it.
Is there any licensing stopping you from including the RP itself just as part of the package?
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@travisdh1 said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
With a Pi3, the slowdown is going to be the USB interface to the drive. Not a terrible little box. Would be nice to see it include a Pi at least. I can understand that doing a custom board doesn't make sense.
Yeah, custom board would be silly. Nothing here that would benefit from the customization.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
Is there any licensing stopping you from including the RP itself just as part of the package?
nah, it'd be possible, but we'd need suddenly a LOT of certification from the FCC and TÃœV and so on - that would delay release significantly. If (when) we go for bigger numbers this is high on our wish list, though.
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@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
Is there any licensing stopping you from including the RP itself just as part of the package?
nah, it'd be possible, but we'd need suddenly a LOT of certification from the FCC and TÃœV and so on - that would delay release significantly. If (when) we go for bigger numbers this is high on our wish list, though.
You could just sell it in the same box and let people assemble themselves.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
You could just sell it in the same box and let people assemble themselves.
I'm not sure about the rules here, but my WDLabs friends assure me that shipping a Pi with it is going to require certification, even if unassembled. You can do a bundle in the store, perhaps, that is different and Amazon does that of course all the time. Not sure if they (can) resell Pi's.
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@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
You could just sell it in the same box and let people assemble themselves.
I'm not sure about the rules here, but my WDLabs friends assure me that shipping a Pi with it is going to require certification, even if unassembled. You can do a bundle in the store, perhaps, that is different and Amazon does that of course all the time. Not sure if they (can) resell Pi's.
They do resell Pis. That's why I think you can do it. It's just a bundle. You are just selling the pieces at the same time. You ARE the store at that point.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
They do resell Pis. That's why I think you can do it. It's just a bundle. You are just selling the pieces at the same time. You ARE the store at that point.
You're right, I checked with them today about what we can do. We can indeed bundle it as long as we don't pre-assemble it all. We're discussing how/when/what, I am personally of the opinion we should do this once we support the oDroid C2 and include that. Pi's are everywhere, many people have them - not with the oDroids
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@jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud Box is out - feedback welcome!:
They do resell Pis. That's why I think you can do it. It's just a bundle. You are just selling the pieces at the same time. You ARE the store at that point.
You're right, I checked with them today about what we can do. We can indeed bundle it as long as we don't pre-assemble it all. We're discussing how/when/what, I am personally of the opinion we should do this once we support the oDroid C2 and include that. Pi's are everywhere, many people have them - not with the oDroids
Makes sense to me.
