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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @bbigford
      last edited by

      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

      @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

      I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

      Network+ > CCNA

      Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

      Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

      Just my opinion though.

      I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        Great post and well said. This is similar advice to what I give... but much more thoroughly thought out and written.

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        • guyinpvG
          guyinpv @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

          @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

          I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

          Network+ > CCNA

          Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

          Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

          Just my opinion though.

          I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

          Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford @guyinpv
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            @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

            @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

            @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

            @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

            @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

            I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

            Network+ > CCNA

            Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

            Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

            Just my opinion though.

            I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

            Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

            Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @guyinpv
              last edited by

              @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

              @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

              @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

              @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

              @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

              I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

              Network+ > CCNA

              Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

              Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

              Just my opinion though.

              I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

              Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

              Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

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              • guyinpvG
                guyinpv @IRJ
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                @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                Network+ > CCNA

                Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                Just my opinion though.

                I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                  @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                  I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                  Network+ > CCNA

                  Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                  Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                  Just my opinion though.

                  I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                  Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                  Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                  I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                  I've had run ins with him on SW where he was violating policy and said that he could do anything that he wanted there basically because he was more important than all of us. Very unprofessional, I felt.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
                    last edited by

                    @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                    I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                    Network+ > CCNA

                    Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                    Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                    Just my opinion though.

                    I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                    Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                    Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

                    That's a good reason. I see the CCNA as worthless. It's dead common, only useful for people too low on the totem pole to need Cisco specific details. If someone has one, I start to assume that they aren't sure what a networking job looks like. It's "that cert" that you get when you are confused about what different certs are for.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                      I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                      Network+ > CCNA

                      Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                      Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                      Just my opinion though.

                      I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                      Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                      Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

                      That's a good reason. I see the CCNA as worthless. It's dead common, only useful for people too low on the totem pole to need Cisco specific details. If someone has one, I start to assume that they aren't sure what a networking job looks like. It's "that cert" that you get when you are confused about what different certs are for.

                      You can skip the CCNA and go straight to a CCNE? or whatever the higher level is?

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @guyinpv
                        last edited by

                        @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                        I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                        Network+ > CCNA

                        Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                        Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                        Just my opinion though.

                        I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                        Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                        Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                        I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                        You're right he would beg to differ. He says some good stuff, but he is too full of himself. He's a really bad teacher. The analogies he uses are awful and rarely make sense. He feels like he must make an analogy for everything.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                          I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                          Network+ > CCNA

                          Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                          Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                          Just my opinion though.

                          I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                          Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                          Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

                          That's a good reason. I see the CCNA as worthless. It's dead common, only useful for people too low on the totem pole to need Cisco specific details. If someone has one, I start to assume that they aren't sure what a networking job looks like. It's "that cert" that you get when you are confused about what different certs are for.

                          You can skip the CCNA and go straight to a CCNE? or whatever the higher level is?

                          CCNP

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                          • guyinpvG
                            guyinpv @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                            I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                            Network+ > CCNA

                            Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                            Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                            Just my opinion though.

                            I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                            Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                            Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

                            That's a good reason. I see the CCNA as worthless. It's dead common, only useful for people too low on the totem pole to need Cisco specific details. If someone has one, I start to assume that they aren't sure what a networking job looks like. It's "that cert" that you get when you are confused about what different certs are for.

                            Is CCNA not "Cisco"? Is it very general?

                            Is there a high-level but general networking cert above Net+ that is worthwhile? Or should one only look to Cisco tracts? What about Juniper? I would kind of want to ride both trains. When job hunting, sure Cisco turns up more, but I've been interested in plenty of jobs where it turns out they use Juniper. Makes me hesitate to jump deep into either unless job required it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                              @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                              I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                              Network+ > CCNA

                              Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                              Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                              Just my opinion though.

                              I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                              Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                              Probably saturation. He probably sees the CCNA now as people saw the A+ more than 5 years ago. Also probably has to do with being vendor specific for being so regarded... instead of something that is truly standard.

                              That's a good reason. I see the CCNA as worthless. It's dead common, only useful for people too low on the totem pole to need Cisco specific details. If someone has one, I start to assume that they aren't sure what a networking job looks like. It's "that cert" that you get when you are confused about what different certs are for.

                              Is CCNA not "Cisco"? Is it very general?

                              It's a higher level, it's the first level of cert that you need to usefully be trained on Cisco. You need a CCNP or higher for a "Cisco job".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @guyinpv
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                                @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                Is there a high-level but general networking cert above Net+ that is worthwhile? Or should one only look to Cisco tracts? What about Juniper? I would kind of want to ride both trains. When job hunting, sure Cisco turns up more, but I've been interested in plenty of jobs where it turns out they use Juniper. Makes me hesitate to jump deep into either unless job required it.

                                Not much. Networking rapidly becomes about knowing the products.

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                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                  I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                                  Network+ > CCNA

                                  Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                                  Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                                  Just my opinion though.

                                  I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                                  Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                                  Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                                  I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                                  I've had run ins with him on SW where he was violating policy and said that he could do anything that he wanted there basically because he was more important than all of us. Very unprofessional, I felt.

                                  Not surprising. I get that vibe from his videos. He thinks he is a god.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                    I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                                    Network+ > CCNA

                                    Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                                    Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                                    Just my opinion though.

                                    I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                                    Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                                    Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                                    I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                                    I've had run ins with him on SW where he was violating policy and said that he could do anything that he wanted there basically because he was more important than all of us. Very unprofessional, I felt.

                                    Not surprising. I get that vibe from his videos. He thinks he is a god.

                                    That was the impression on SW, too. And he's not even a community member, really, he's very much a newbie without any peer review.

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                                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                      I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                                      Network+ > CCNA

                                      Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                                      Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                                      Just my opinion though.

                                      I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                                      Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                                      Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                                      I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                                      I've had run ins with him on SW where he was violating policy and said that he could do anything that he wanted there basically because he was more important than all of us. Very unprofessional, I felt.

                                      Not surprising. I get that vibe from his videos. He thinks he is a god.

                                      I looked up... SW interviewed him and he totally snubbed the community and refused to even respond to people. Ridiculous.

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                                        bbigford @IRJ
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

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                                        @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                        @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                        I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                                        Network+ > CCNA

                                        Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                                        Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                                        Just my opinion though.

                                        I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                                        Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                                        Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                                        I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                                        You're right he would beg to differ. He says some good stuff, but he is too full of himself. He's a really bad teacher. The analogies he uses are awful and rarely make sense. He feels like he must make an analogy for everything.

                                        Right. Not everything needs an analogy. You can explain things and assume people know what you're talking about. Making analogies ALL the times is the same as treating your students like idiots. Just explain the tech. If someone doesn't understand, try a different approach at explaining it, but leave the analogies out of it.

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                                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

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                                          @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @guyinpv said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @IRJ said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          @BBigford said in Logical IT Certification Progression:

                                          I think that progression is listed fairly well for a working foundation. To add to that (in no particular order)...

                                          Network+ > CCNA

                                          Why not CCENT > CCNA? CCENT is basically the same as Network+, but gives you credit towards CCNA

                                          Because it costs money and, as you said, it's basically the same thing. I've told people to just keep studying and skip it if they already have the Net+. Assuming they want to keep going and are considering the CCENT because they think it holds more merit than the Net+ as far as difficulty and industry recognition goes. Only reason is I think it's just a waste of money when someone could spend more time studying for the CCNA and just go ahead and test on that.

                                          Just my opinion though.

                                          I agree, I'd rather have the Net+ and the CCNA because it's two totally different exams and tests. The CCENT is pointless if you get the CCNA.

                                          Eli the computer guy abhors the CCNA. Not sure the story on that.

                                          Eli the computer guy is far from an authority on anything IMO.

                                          I'm sure he would beg to differ. I randomly decided to let a couple of his daily vlogs run in the background, the dude is quite sure of himself when it comes to be an IT person. What would make you think he's got nothing to offer? Just curious.

                                          You're right he would beg to differ. He says some good stuff, but he is too full of himself. He's a really bad teacher. The analogies he uses are awful and rarely make sense. He feels like he must make an analogy for everything.

                                          Right. Not everything needs an analogy. You can explain things and assume people know what you're talking about. Making analogies ALL the times is the same as treating your students like idiots. Just explain the tech. If someone doesn't understand, try a different approach at explaining it, but leave the analogies out of it.

                                          Tough in a video, big audience and he doesn't know what people get and what they don't.

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                                            Question: Why should I participate at Mangolassi?

                                            Answer: Um, well, ok, think of it as kinda like a hamburger, but it has no onions. The hamburger is tasty and useful, but maybe missing some flavor. You click reply and type something. That something is like onions you're adding to the burger. The burger becomes tasty and has more flavors, people like it. The entire burger becomes more complete. And the more people reply and add ingredients, the better the burger tastes. When you create new threads, it's like having fries or shake, and then other people add some salt or chocolate. Mangolassi is like a multi-course meal, the Internet is like a restaurant.....

                                            That answer your question?

                                            Ok I'm out.....

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