The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge
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Give us 3-4 months and i'll put you in contact with our MSP as they will be trying to sell us some hardware and SAN with a refresh, even after i've suggested better like Scale
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
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I think one thing that is important to mention is that the term SAN as used in this topic refers to a single storage node upon which all of your data rests.
Back 7 or 8 years ago when I first started learning about SAN systems, I was shocked that people would only build or buy based on a single unit, without understanding that if that single unit died, they were dead in the water.
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@hobbit666 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
Give us 3-4 months and i'll put you in contact with our MSP as they will be trying to sell us some hardware and SAN with a refresh, even after i've suggested better like Scale
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
Do you have a write up of common purchasing mistakes to hand to management before hand?
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@travisdh1 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@hobbit666 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
Give us 3-4 months and i'll put you in contact with our MSP as they will be trying to sell us some hardware and SAN with a refresh, even after i've suggested better like Scale
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
Do you have a write up of common purchasing mistakes to hand to management before hand?
I think @scottalanmiller could contribute a few points to that one as well!
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@dafyre said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@travisdh1 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@hobbit666 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
Give us 3-4 months and i'll put you in contact with our MSP as they will be trying to sell us some hardware and SAN with a refresh, even after i've suggested better like Scale
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
Do you have a write up of common purchasing mistakes to hand to management before hand?
I think @scottalanmiller could contribute a few points to that one as well!
I'll just print off his blog site that should do
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@hobbit666 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
Give us 3-4 months and i'll put you in contact with our MSP as they will be trying to sell us some hardware and SAN with a refresh, even after i've suggested better like Scale
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
There are other service providers...hint hint, nudge nudge....
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@John-Nicholson said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
One last thought...
IF the reason that Xen has 2% market share is because there is NO LOGICAL REASON for vSphere or paid Hyper-V (with VMM to manage) then that means 98% of IT people are idiots. If 98% are idiots, wouldn't that mean they should be outsourcing their IT as much as possible to their vendors or others? (and therefore not deploy Xen).
Catch-22
Xen has 2% of the market share because it never came out of the niche. Most admins are lazy (it's natural, all people are so deeply inside and lazy = OK) so if you need to perform 1 simple activity with ESXi and it "just works" but you need to run many whistles with Xen... Naturally you'll go ESXi next time! Just because you want to spend these +2 hours drinking Coors and watching Vikings losing another game. Being too professional != being good. IMHO of course.
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@scottalanmiller said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@John-Nicholson said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
There was thread on SW recently where someone said "NIMBLE SUCKS I DON"T GET THE IOPS I PROMISED". The next post was his Nimble sales rep posting "So I see your at 20% load, your IO latency is .5 ms currently and while your 220C model is one of our smaller ones we have far larger ones. If your having any problems please call us and we will help you" I laughed, but it made me realize the damage that incompetent IT do to the name of a product or application. We are at the point that a sales rep would rather piss off a customer and call them out as an idiot (he was nice about it) than risk their companies name being drug through the mud.
That's not incompetence, though. That's just someone lying. there is a difference.
There's no line in sand about that. Whatever you're going to do 10 people are going to love you but there will be one who'll either hate you or he'll not care. Nimble is more or less safe - they don't do software, but with software it's very easy to a) misconfigure and b) break something working and done by other guys. Who's one to blame? Of course storage vendor! He has SLAs!
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@KOOLER said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@John-Nicholson said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
One last thought...
IF the reason that Xen has 2% market share is because there is NO LOGICAL REASON for vSphere or paid Hyper-V (with VMM to manage) then that means 98% of IT people are idiots. If 98% are idiots, wouldn't that mean they should be outsourcing their IT as much as possible to their vendors or others? (and therefore not deploy Xen).
Catch-22
Xen has 2% of the market share because it never came out of the niche. Most admins are lazy (it's natural, all people are so deeply inside and lazy = OK) so if you need to perform 1 simple activity with ESXi and it "just works" but you need to run many whistles with Xen... Naturally you'll go ESXi next time! Just because you want to spend these +2 hours drinking Coors and watching Vikings losing another game. Being too professional != being good. IMHO of course.
I'd argue that Xen is the market leader by far, whereas XenServer you're right on track with. Picking at straws I know.
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@travisdh1 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@KOOLER said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
@John-Nicholson said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
One last thought...
IF the reason that Xen has 2% market share is because there is NO LOGICAL REASON for vSphere or paid Hyper-V (with VMM to manage) then that means 98% of IT people are idiots. If 98% are idiots, wouldn't that mean they should be outsourcing their IT as much as possible to their vendors or others? (and therefore not deploy Xen).
Catch-22
Xen has 2% of the market share because it never came out of the niche. Most admins are lazy (it's natural, all people are so deeply inside and lazy = OK) so if you need to perform 1 simple activity with ESXi and it "just works" but you need to run many whistles with Xen... Naturally you'll go ESXi next time! Just because you want to spend these +2 hours drinking Coors and watching Vikings losing another game. Being too professional != being good. IMHO of course.
I'd argue that Xen is the market leader by far, whereas XenServer you're right on track with. Picking at straws I know.
At very least in the public, high end, enterprise cloud space.
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@dafyre said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
I think one thing that is important to mention is that the term SAN as used in this topic refers to a single storage node upon which all of your data rests.
Correct, to be an IPOD it has to be a single storage node, but not necessarily SAN. It could be SAN, NAS, DAS, a USB drive, a shared JBOD enclosure, whatever. Many things resting on the reliability of one.
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@hobbit666 said in The Inverted Pyramid of Doom Challenge:
Might be suggesting a 3rd party review of the solution so look out for an E-mail NTG
@Minion-Queen waits with baited breath.
