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    Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?

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      linux_learner
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Don't take me wrong as I'm using Owncloud & Nextcloud myself. Lately I did some test on Seafile in my virtual lab and found out it's extremely fast in terms of synchronization speed. What bothers me is that Seafile splits files into blocks on the server which makes admin job a bit inconvenient at the server side. But that is also the reason it's outperformed Owncloud & Pydio as it does delta sync.

      Another advantage is that Seafile still support Windows server. Not that Windows is better than Linux but not a bad thing for users to have another choice.

      So my question is , why Owncloud/Nextcloud is more popular here? I see people talk about Seafile on Reddit all the time but never seen it happened here.

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        scottalanmiller
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        Well huge factors are that Seafile is not open source, nor is it free unless you want to limit to just three users. Plus Seafile does not participate in the community. Those are three massive factors.

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          linux_learner @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller
          Hi Sam,
          According to Seafile themselves 'Seafile is an open source cloud storage system with features on privacy protection and teamwork.' Users would need to pay for the enterprise version for Owncloud/Nextcloud anyway unless you stick to community version.
          Did you mean Seafile doesn't participate in this community? Hmm, that might be the answer.

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            wirestyle22 @linux_learner
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            @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

            @scottalanmiller
            Hi Sam,
            According to Seafile themselves 'Seafile is an open source cloud storage system with features on privacy protection and teamwork.' Users would need to pay for the enterprise version for Owncloud/Nextcloud anyway unless you stick to community version.
            Did you mean Seafile doesn't participate in this community? Hmm, that might be the answer.

            I know the community edition is open source. I don't think the Professional Edition is

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              scottalanmiller @linux_learner
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              @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

              Did you mean Seafile doesn't participate in this community? Hmm, that might be the answer.

              Yes, that is a factor.

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                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                I know the community edition is open source. I don't think the Professional Edition is

                I found nothing like that on their site. It only said that you had to register and pay, not that any open source anything was available. Where is that link?

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                  linux_learner @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller

                  https://github.com/haiwen/seafile

                  Maybe they are not 100% open source.

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                    scottalanmiller @linux_learner
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                    @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                    Users would need to pay for the enterprise version for Owncloud/Nextcloud anyway unless you stick to community version.

                    ownCloud and NextCloud are totally open source, that alone is how NextCloud even exists. There is never a need to pay for an enterprise version and with NextCloud there is only one version, no enterprise version at all. You are mixing "have the option to buy support" with "have to pay for a different thing." NextCloud is 100% open source and there is just one version.

                    ownCloud itself is all open source and you never need to pay, but they have add on features that are not open source and for those you have to pay if you want them.

                    Seafile's site says that I have to pay, how I use what I download is not up to me.

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                      scottalanmiller @linux_learner
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                      @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                      @scottalanmiller

                      https://github.com/haiwen/seafile

                      Maybe they are not 100% open source.

                      Interesting. They sure don't give this impression on their website.

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                        coliver
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                        They released their community edition with GPLv2. https://www.seafile.com/en/product/private_server/

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                          scottalanmiller @linux_learner
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                          @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                          Another advantage is that Seafile still support Windows server. Not that Windows is better than Linux but not a bad thing for users to have another choice.

                          Not if you assume that you are going to use the professional edition. Only the open source one supports Windows. Their paid, supported versions are Linux only.

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                            linux_learner @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller

                            I see. It's a pity that Nextcloud doesn't do delta sync. Hope it's on the roadmap.

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                              wirestyle22 @linux_learner
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                              @linux_learner that would be very useful

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                                coliver @linux_learner
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                                @linux_learner said in Why would you chose Nextcloud over Seafile?:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                Hi Sam,
                                According to Seafile themselves 'Seafile is an open source cloud storage system with features on privacy protection and teamwork.' Users would need to pay for the enterprise version for Owncloud/Nextcloud anyway unless you stick to community version.
                                Did you mean Seafile doesn't participate in this community? Hmm, that might be the answer.

                                Why would you go to the professional version of Nextcloud if you don't need support? The community version of Nextcloud includes everything that the enterprise version does except the support, and apparently packaging and installation tools as has been described in another thread.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Here we go, only the core product is open source or runs on Windows. The majority of features are Linux and professional closed source only:

                                  0_1469022212469_Screenshot from 2016-07-20 09:43:03.png

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                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Maybe none of the closed source features matter to you, but Seafile is definitely only partially open source. That the core is open is good, that the full thing is not open is not. This is the same mistake that ownCloud made that led to a community revolt and the creation of NextCloud. Not the sole factor, but it was a key component.

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                                      Reid Cooper
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                                      Seems like the totally free of NextCloud is a pretty big factor. Most of us have pretty tight budgets, so being able to totally demo and test and even deploy NextCloud without further approval is great.

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