Non-IT News Thread

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

Russian state TV, NTV, surprisingly balanced in reporting so far.

Just checking German stations... I think the coup will be over when they are finished with the ads.

http://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/livestream/Militaerputsch-in-der-Tuerkei-article9511936.html

At least 5 people have been injured by gunfire while they tried to cross that bridge.

tonyshowoff

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

MattSpeller

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

It seems to be the Military vs Police somehow - very confusing!

tonyshowoff

@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

It seems to be the Military vs Police somehow - very confusing!

Well the police are sort of Erdagon's own personal "army" because it's commanded by people loyal to him and his autocratic policies, that's probably why.

thwr

@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

It seems to be the Military vs Police somehow - very confusing!

It's just wild guessing right now. Problem is, Erdogan placed lots of people into key positions at the police.T he german reporter just said that he heard that the whole military is supporting the coup - if so, the police wouldn't have any chance.

tonyshowoff

@thwr said in Non-IT News Thread:

@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

It seems to be the Military vs Police somehow - very confusing!

It's just wild guessing right now. Problem is, Erdogan placed lots of people into key positions at the police.T he german reporter just said that he heard that the whole military is supporting the coup - if so, the police wouldn't have any chance.

Certainly true, if all branches of the armed forces are behind it, it's over, as far as general force goes, though the people can be unpredictable.

tonyshowoff

Brother says things are calm, going to take a nap, pretty late, been up a long time. Anything crazy happens I'll be sure to update, assuming I'm not completely unconscious.

thwr

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

@thwr said in Non-IT News Thread:

@MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:

It definitely seems like reports from a little while ago that things calming down turn out to be probably very wrong and that this may be the start of a minor civil war, depending on how much support Erdagon can muster, and/or if he can split up the military.

It seems to be the Military vs Police somehow - very confusing!

It's just wild guessing right now. Problem is, Erdogan placed lots of people into key positions at the police.T he german reporter just said that he heard that the whole military is supporting the coup - if so, the police wouldn't have any chance.

Certainly true, if all branches of the armed forces are behind it, it's over.

Tanks and fighter jets at least. This is not just one or two rogue commanders I guess.

thwr

Looks like the coup failed. Some sad numbers: ~90 dead, ~1100 people injured, ~750 soldiers arrested.

tonyshowoff

@thwr said in Non-IT News Thread:

Looks like the coup failed. Some sad numbers: ~90 dead, ~1100 people injured, ~750 soldiers arrested.

Something I noticed about the American news was they kept saying "democratically elected", sometimes multiple times in the same sentence, over and over, ad nauseum. This, along with their absolute lies that Turkey is instrumental in fighting ISIS, was particularly disgusting. The few world leaders who kept saying "democratic order needs to be restored," I agree, so we have to get rid of Erdogan to do that.

What's even more insane is afterwards on CNN Turk, he straight up said that he will use this as an opportunity to cleanse the military. It's like some sort of goofy 1940s-esque dictatorship.

How the US manages to constantly, unquestionably kiss their ass every single day is beyond me. It's not just lying to the world that Turkey is democratic, it's not just having the AKP party leader on TV pretending as though she's neutral so she can blame Kurds for all Turkey's problems, it's not just because US soldiers wearing YPG insignia caused them to have a tantrum and then the US suddenly does a 180 on their own policy to publicly kiss Erdogan's ass, and it's not because they have government sanctioned denial of the Armenian genocide which the US backs them up in denying, ... the truly disgusting part is that they spend more time and effort to bomb Kurds outside their border who are fighting ISIS and being supported by the US, than actually fighting ISIS and the US says nothing. It just completely blows my mind.

mlnews

~3000 arrested now.