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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said in What happened to the website?:

      I can't make the conference but I am interested in partaking in the scam, if you could PM me some more details @Minion-Queen

      Which scam would you like more information on, the money splitting or the purchasing of the swag bag? I find that the later is surprisingly more popular.

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        Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said in What happened to the website?:

        I can't make the conference but I am interested in partaking in the scam, if you could PM me some more details @Minion-Queen

        I know a man in Nigeria you should talk to...Give me your email address, home address, bank details, security questions and I will tell him to transfer....1 million dollars.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said in What happened to the website?:

          @scottalanmiller said

          You know, you could argue that some conferences your entrance fee isn't for the conference or training but just you purchasing the swag bag 🙂

          I have no idea which specific conference you are referring to, My mind is blank.

          To be fare, the one literal bag from that conference has been my best laptop backpack for about seven years. So even if the entire cost of the conference went to buying that bag it would have been a reasonable company expense. It finally died this spring. I seriously used that thing like every day!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Someone should point out that we have derailed. I think that @aaronstuder had a valid question about the CC vs. bank transfer fees but I am not entirely sure what he was looking for. I would suggest the bank transfer option when it is available as it is less costly. CCs suck for a lot of reasons and PP makes them such more. If you have the PNC Bank direct option, that's great. I would do that. A lot of companies just don't care about fees at that scale and will use the CC for ease of use internally and PP capitalizes on that, sadly. but they pay fees to Visa and MC for that as well, so they don't make out all that much.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              I am not entirely sure what he was looking for.

              I think his concern was that his company would not approve a payment of a conference fee to a specific person.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:

                @scottalanmiller said

                I am not entirely sure what he was looking for.

                I think his concern was that his company would not approve a payment of a conference fee to a specific person.

                I don't think so as he posted two pictures, and the only difference between them was the fee and he highlighted that to draw our attention to it. Nothing about the name was brought up. Look at his two pictures... I'm 99% sure he's looking at the fee difference. Just not sure if he is asking a question or just letting people know how to save a few bucks or if he needed something done.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Alex Sage
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                  @aaronstuder said in What happened to the website?:

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                  That's because she's using a non business account - and because you want to use a CC you get to pay the CC fee.

                  If she had a business account, you would have zero fee, and she would have a fee no matter how you pay.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said in What happened to the website?:

                    I have two business Paypal accounts and I can send money to friends and family without any fees. The biggest advantage to a business account is the PayPal debit card. You get 1% rewards and you can use your PayPal balance without waiting for it to deposit in your bank account.

                    I think you can always send money a feeless way, it's recieving money into a business account that isn't free, unless the sender picks you as a friends and family, but even then, the business still might pay a fee on receipt.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in What happened to the website?:

                      That's because she's using a non business account - and because you want to use a CC you get to pay the CC fee.

                      If she had a business account, you would have zero fee, and she would have a fee no matter how you pay.

                      Uhm, someone ALWAYS pays those CC fees. If you process enough they'll give you a discounted fee rate, but you always pay those fees.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Here is a way to think of it... the conference is $206, not $200 but there is a $6 discount for not paying with a CC.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                          @scottalanmiller

                          @aaronstuder said

                          My boss will never approve a expense to a person. How does he know I am not splitting the money with @Minion-Queen, and take taking a couple of paided days off lol

                          I am taking no sides, just saying I think this is what started it all.

                          Then he said to enroll a business account.

                          And the ball got rolling.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:

                            @scottalanmiller

                            @aaronstuder said

                            My boss will never approve a expense to a person. How does he know I am not splitting the money with @Minion-Queen, and take taking a couple of paided days off lol

                            I am taking no sides, just saying I think this is what started it all.

                            Then he said to enroll a business account.

                            And the ball got rolling.

                            Yes, but he moved on from there and the post that we are all responding to is just two pictures with the fee difference highlighted.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Yes, but he moved on from there and the post that we are all responding to is just two pictures with the fee difference highlighted.

                              The point being...

                              • his point is that it is free to open a business account, and that would make paying for the conference easier for him
                              • the counter point being it is NOT free for business accounts to accept payments

                              I do not know 100%, but I am pretty sure that business accounts DO incur a fee when receiving payment, regardless of the method used.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:

                                I do not know 100%, but I am pretty sure that business accounts DO incur a fee when receiving payment, regardless of the method used.

                                Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere 🙂 And MasterCard would be out of business.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere 🙂 And MasterCard would be out of business.

                                  But businesses get hit on paying from your bank account as well, I believe.

                                  It's the same fee regardless of where the buyer funds from.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    2.9% + $0.30 per transaction

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in What happened to the website?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      Yeah, always a fee for CCs no matter how when or where. Every store pays a fee. If there was a free way to do CCs we'd all use it for everything everywhere 🙂 And MasterCard would be out of business.

                                      But businesses get hit on paying from your bank account as well, I believe.

                                      It's the same fee regardless of where the buyer funds from.

                                      From PayPal, that is true - business pay on all incoming transactions with the possible exception of Send to Friend/Family, but I'm not really sure there.

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                                      • DanpD
                                        Danp @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:

                                        A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.

                                        Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.

                                        There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Danp
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                                          @Danp said in What happened to the website?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:

                                          A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.

                                          Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.

                                          There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.

                                          Yeah - it's the same difference though. i.e. you pay more when using a CC.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Danp
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                                            @Danp said in What happened to the website?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What happened to the website?:

                                            A lot of gas stations charge a higher rate (basically a per gallon fee) for using a CC over cash.

                                            Not sure if you are talking domestic or international. In the US, I don't believe that you can charge extra for paying by CC. They generally get around this by advertising the CC price and then offering a cash discount.

                                            There are some exceptions, such as payments to government agencies, etc.

                                            yes, if you can get around it by "just doing it" it's not really a limitation. And any limitation on not charging extra is purely a rule from the CCs so if the CCs don't have it any longer or don't enforce it, it simply does not exist.

                                            And one can argue that "paying more for CC" or "having different prices" are just two wordings of the same action.

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