Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows
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Hmmn, I think I'd rather either do a standard, clean, fresh install or manually uninstall bloatware.
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Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
You mean by policy that vendors who sell your software preinstalled can't put crap ware on the machine?
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
You mean by policy that vendors who sell your software preinstalled can't put crap ware on the machine?
No, by properly installing an OS yourself, just like you do with servers. Why make desktops or laptops something that you expect someone else to do the initial IT job of installing the OS but need to install it yourself after that point? It makes no sense conceptually to have the job split like that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
You mean by policy that vendors who sell your software preinstalled can't put crap ware on the machine?
No, by properly installing an OS yourself, just like you do with servers. Why make desktops or laptops something that you expect someone else to do the initial IT job of installing the OS but need to install it yourself after that point? It makes no sense conceptually to have the job split like that.
So you think consumers should be installing the OS themselves?
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@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
Because of what Scott said, I see this as nothing but a consumer tool.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
Because of what Scott said, I see this as nothing but a consumer tool.
Yes but given you can do this in Windows 8 and up by default with a tool built into the OS I don't get why MS released this.
I especially don't get why it's a preview/insider only build tool.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
Because of what Scott said, I see this as nothing but a consumer tool.
Yes but given you can do this in Windows 8 and up by default with a tool built into the OS I don't get why MS released this.
I especially don't get why it's a preview/insider only build tool.
You could do what in Windows 8 and 8.1 - there was a de-junkier built into Windows 8.x? What was it called?
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
Because of what Scott said, I see this as nothing but a consumer tool.
Yes but given you can do this in Windows 8 and up by default with a tool built into the OS I don't get why MS released this.
I especially don't get why it's a preview/insider only build tool.
You could do what in Windows 8 and 8.1 - there was a de-junkier built into Windows 8.x? What was it called?
Here you go. Note the date on the article 2013.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
Interesting, but why bandaid when you can fix?
If this was a general availability tool, I suppose the theory is the users can do this themselves, if you have no knowledge of IT you might go for this.
Because of what Scott said, I see this as nothing but a consumer tool.
Yes but given you can do this in Windows 8 and up by default with a tool built into the OS I don't get why MS released this.
I especially don't get why it's a preview/insider only build tool.
You could do what in Windows 8 and 8.1 - there was a de-junkier built into Windows 8.x? What was it called?
Here you go. Note the date on the article 2013.
I guess I assumed that Windows 10 had those same two options. And I was also assuming this tool only effected installed junkware, not non junkware like Office, Adobe Reader (though some call junkware), etc.
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@Dashrender said
I guess I assumed that Windows 10 had those same two options.
But...Windows 10 does. It's available built into the OS.
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Any random Linux distro will do this... I don't understand the excitement.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender said
I guess I assumed that Windows 10 had those same two options.
But...Windows 10 does. It's available built into the OS.
At this point we would need to see what this new tool does versus a Refresh.
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It would be useful to fix my parents computer in a click instead of add/remove programs -> uninstall -> crapware
Otherwise..... meh? More exciting if you're a user I suppose. Good to know about though.
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maybe im missing something, whats the difference between this and reset your pc (removing all files)? I didnt rtfm
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There seems to be three levels now.
Reset - completely wipe windows making it factory'ish fresh
Refresh - removes installed programs, but leaves you data
MS's new tool to remove crapware - how does it know what is or isn't crapware - who knows? -
@Dashrender thanks Dash. Whats the difference if you reset but leave files?
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@Brains said in Windows 10 tool - Refresh Windows:
@Dashrender thanks Dash. Whats the difference if you reset but leave files?
eh? reset but leave files? That's what option 2 is. it basically resets Windows but leaves your personal files on the system.
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