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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Nope VM or Hyper-V or XS or bare metal don't change the process of migrating

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
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          @coliver said in Learning VMware vSphere:

          Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

          Do you actually migrate the DHCP data base over when you do this? or do you let it sort it self out?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            DNS is cake, when you install Win2012 R2 server, make sure you install the DNS role. Then when you install the AD DS role and DCPromo it, it will use DNS automatically, nothing for you to configure.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @coliver
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              @coliver said in Learning VMware vSphere:

              Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

              I've actually (surprisingly) done a domain migration before but it wasn't virtualized. Here and there I get good experience.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                The file server is also pretty simple. Stand up a new 2012R2 server, Robocopy, (with the permissions switch) all the data to it and recreate the shares. If you really want to future proof your build setup a DFS domain and share everything out as \\domain\share. This way you can easily migrate servers in the future without users having to re-map drives and re-learn directories.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                  @coliver said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                  Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

                  I've actually (surprisingly) done a domain migration before but it wasn't virtualized. Here and there I get good experience.

                  virtualization in this (and most) case doesn't change the process one bit. Just think of the two VMs as bare metal, and do what you did last time (more or less).

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                    @coliver said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                    Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

                    I've actually (surprisingly) done a domain migration before but it wasn't virtualized. Here and there I get good experience.

                    Again, virtualization has nothing to do with this. You're up in the stack another level. To you, and the Windows Servers, you are installing them on hardware.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                      @coliver said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                      Updating the Domain controller is simple. Stand up a new Server 2012R2 VM, install the AD DS services on it and force replication. Transfer the FSMO roles to the 2012R2 Domain Controller and then demote the 2003 server. If the 2003 server was doing DHCP and DNS as well then that is also fairly easy to transfer over.

                      I've actually (surprisingly) done a domain migration before but it wasn't virtualized. Here and there I get good experience.

                      virtualization in this (and most) case doesn't change the process one bit. Just think of the two VMs as bare metal, and do what you did last time (more or less).

                      Duly noted kind sir. Thanks for the info guys. Do you have any education recommendations? I try to dig in as much as possible from different angles.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
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                        The only education I recommend is a home lab and time.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          The best education I can suggest is get a PC, install VMWare (in this case to replication your future project) and install two windows server on it. The free version will do you fine. You should be able to download, install VMWare in under 1 hour, then about 1 hour each for the two windows machines. So in less than half a day you'd have a test box.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @coliver
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                            @coliver Luckily I'll have both soon 😄

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
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                              I'll get started soon on the project. I'm sure I'll have a ton of questions when I start the learning process. Thanks for everything guys.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                                The best education I can suggest is get a PC, install VMWare (in this case to replication your future project) and install two windows server on it. The free version will do you fine. You should be able to download, install VMWare in under 1 hour, then about 1 hour each for the two windows machines. So in less than half a day you'd have a test box.

                                The download may take ~an hour for all three. You should be able to stand VMWare and both Windows Servers up in ~1 hour not including the downloading.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  You might consider changing the title of this thread to

                                  Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012. This thread is more about that VMWare.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Learning VMware vSphere:

                                    You might consider changing the title of this thread to

                                    Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012. This thread is more about that VMWare.

                                    Done.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
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                                      I would also not recommend working with VMWare for a home lab. You'll get the same/similar experience from Hyper-V (which is where you want to go) or XenServer.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012 (VM):

                                        I would also not recommend working with VMWare for a home lab. You'll get the same/similar experience from Hyper-V (which is where you want to go) or XenServer.

                                        Assuming you're not migrating this client to something, then I'll disagree with coliver here. You should walk through the same thing you'll see during the install so you know what to expect.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012 (VM):

                                          @coliver said in Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012 (VM):

                                          I would also not recommend working with VMWare for a home lab. You'll get the same/similar experience from Hyper-V (which is where you want to go) or XenServer.

                                          Assuming you're not migrating this client to something, then I'll disagree with coliver here. You should walk through the same thing you'll see during the install so you know what to expect.

                                          I have 2 PC's and soon I will have a server (xbyte) for a test environment. I could always do both.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012 (VM):

                                            @coliver said in Migrating Windows 2003 to 2012 (VM):

                                            I would also not recommend working with VMWare for a home lab. You'll get the same/similar experience from Hyper-V (which is where you want to go) or XenServer.

                                            Assuming you're not migrating this client to something, then I'll disagree with coliver here. You should walk through the same thing you'll see during the install so you know what to expect.

                                            He mentioned earlier that he would refresh with Hyper-V. Either way though VMWare is GUI based and the functions and UI metaphors are mirrored in all of the major virtualization platforms. The only one you may have issues with is KVM but with LibVirt I think you can overcome that.

                                            The point of a home lab, to me, is to develop skills that you won't get on the job. Learning a different virtualization platform would be one of those things, and it could make you competitive when/if the next job comes up.

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