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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

      Is that who you mean? Is technical support safe to trust?

      Probably. But... that was a very reckless decision on their part. So... no.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

        @scottalanmiller

        Also, what is your take? Safe to reboot on a rebuilding array if you have to configure it from the controller config in BIOS?

        No, it's reckless and crazy. You don't induce a failure risk during a repair operation.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          If it is rebuilding, why is configuration needed? Any why is configuration limited to the BIOS?

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

            If it is rebuilding, why is configuration needed? Any why is configuration limited to the BIOS?

            Because when this happens, the drives totally disappear from the PERC config and the server crashes. You have to go in and clear the foreign config. There is nothing to rebuild.

            It's not like a drive has failed, and the LED is orange and you can pull it. Nothing like that.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              Any why is configuration limited to the BIOS?

              I mean the PERC configuration utility access during POST but hitting <CTRL>R.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                @scottalanmiller said

                Any why is configuration limited to the BIOS?

                I mean the PERC configuration utility access during POST but hitting <CTRL>R.

                Me too 🙂

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                  If it is rebuilding, why is configuration needed? Any why is configuration limited to the BIOS?

                  Because when this happens, the drives totally disappear from the PERC config and the server crashes. You have to go in and clear the foreign config. There is nothing to rebuild.

                  It's not like a drive has failed, and the LED is orange and you can pull it. Nothing like that.

                  That means that the PERC has failed. That's a different issue.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said

                    That means that the PERC has failed. That's a different issue.

                    Are we back to that?

                    I mean, it's definitely on the table. Just not sure why all of a sudden you think that's so likely.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                      @scottalanmiller said

                      That means that the PERC has failed. That's a different issue.

                      Are we back to that?

                      I mean, it's definitely on the table. Just not sure why all of a sudden you think that's so likely.

                      Because you said that it was rebuilding. The PERC should remain up and viable even without disks attached to it. You can continue to manage it online through the iDRAC or a VM that isn't using those drives.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said

                        Because you said that it was rebuilding. The PERC should remain up and viable even without disks attached to it. You can continue to manage it online through the iDRAC or a VM that isn't using those drives.

                        The PERC is up. It's just the drives aren't. Certain drives aren't. The DELL 7.2K SATA drives I have in an array have not dropped off or made a peep once.

                        The DRAC isn't so great at managing storage or talking to the PERC, or so I have been told. (Those the remote console is worth its weight in gold)

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Are you booting from SD card? That would solve the issue, right?

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said

                            Not yet, but soon.

                            And yes, I know that if I was booting off USB/SD I could have copied the VM to my other storage repository and then redid my array. 😉

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Not yet, but soon.

                              And yes, I know that if I was booting off USB/SD I could have copied the VM to my other storage repository and then redid my array. 😉

                              Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

                                  You can install OMSA to a VM? I didn't think it would be able to access the hardware.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                    @scottalanmiller said

                                    Yes, that too. But I also mean that the array could be managed without a reboot.

                                    You can install OMSA to a VM? I didn't think it would be able to access the hardware.

                                    You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

                                      I was going to ask about this in my roadtrip of XS.

                                      So, then how do you access it? From a web browser just like any other OMSA install?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        You install directly to XenServer's Dom0 which has hardware access.

                                        I was going to ask about this in my roadtrip of XS.

                                        So, then how do you access it? From a web browser just like any other OMSA install?

                                        Dom0 is just an operating system, CentOS in XenServer. It would host the application as if it were installed on any other server.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                          That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

                                          Did you see my post about the speed of my USB2 booted test XS. It is SO SLOW.

                                          Is that normal since it is USB2?

                                          Would SD be any quicker? though for the few times you update/reboot, perhaps the speed at boot/update isn't an issue.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                            That's anther good reason that we don't normally think of for installing to SD/USB.

                                            Did you see my post about the speed of my USB2 booted test XS. It is SO SLOW.

                                            Is that normal since it is USB2?

                                            Would SD be any quicker? though for the few times you update/reboot, perhaps the speed at boot/update isn't an issue.

                                            No, I missed it. How slow was it?

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