HIPPA
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@Jason said
Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.
If it was just her calling you, and perhaps she wanted a date, I'd overlook it.
Anything else, yeah, not cool.
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Someone got it off the form - did they have HIPAA related reason to see/learn the number originally? If yes, I see a very lawyer intensive problem ahead of anyone/everyone.
One could argue that once he learned the information for him it's considered known info, so he can use any time thereafter. As for giving it to others - I could also see the argument the same as before - once he knows it.. and knows it away from HIPAA info, he can do whatever he wants with it.
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Where did you get that snippet from?
To my knowledge employers are not covered under the HIPAA rule. In the same way a manufacturer you give medical info to is not.
Not applicable here, because a different circumstance, but by definition employers are not covered under the rule to my knowledge.
Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.
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@Jason said
So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.
They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.
Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html
Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.
Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?
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@Dashrender said
Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.
And hence not covered under the HIPAA rule.
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@Dashrender said in HIPPA:
@Jason said
So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.
They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.
Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html
Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.
Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?
No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.
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@Dashrender said in HIPPA:
@Jason said
So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.
They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.
Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html
Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.
Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?
No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.
This makes me sad for the country.
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@Dashrender said
Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.
And hence not covered under the HIPAA rule.
I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure everyone is covered by HIPAA, but Covered Entities CE have even more restrictions. For example, Business Associates of CEs are definitely covered by HIPAA, made even more so with ARRA than they were under HIPAA direct.
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@scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:
@Dashrender said in HIPPA:
@Jason said
So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.
They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.
Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html
Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.
Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?
No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.
This makes me sad for the country.
Agreed!
So who are those employers again so I know not to bother applying there?
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@Dashrender said
I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure everyone is covered by HIPAA, but Covered Entities CE have even more restrictions. For example, Business Associates of CEs are definitely covered by HIPAA, made even more so with ARRA than they were under HIPAA direct.
Yes, they changed the rule a bit to make Business Associates fall under the rule as well.
Here is a good write up of who is covered.
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities/index.htmlBut anyone not on that short list is not. For example, if you give your health info to a company that is making a health care product, they are not covered. Now, in my experience those kinds of companies protect the data even MORE, because it is vital to their business, and not just a requirement of the government.
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OK thanks, the scope is much smaller than I realized.
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@Dashrender said in HIPPA:
@Jason said
So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.
They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.
Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)
http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html
Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.
Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?
No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.
This is crazy. I can't fathom this being required from any employer. I've worked in factories and construction zones where the risk of injury is huge. Most people carried a prescription card, what medications they were taking, in their wallet but never would have given, or have been asked to give, that information to the company.
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We are a fortune 100 manufacturing company. We've had a lot of management changes in the past month that haven't been so good. None of this stuff would have been allowed before. We've had two hundred or so employees quit in the last month over this stuff, granted that's less than half of a percent of our work force.
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@Jason said
We are a fortune 100 manufacturing company. We've had a lot of management changes in the past month that haven't been so good. None of this stuff would have been allowed before. We've had two hundred or so employees quit in the last month over this stuff, granted that's less than half of a percent of our work force.
Still not sure they can force it. Those people quitting is the definition of why we have these labor laws.
It would be like asking a woman if she was pregnant ever day and firing her if she said yes.
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