Common Core haters
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@scottalanmiller said:
@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller All I can speak for is the time I was in HS, late 80s early 90s. ALL schools have gone to shit in the last 25 years. AP classes where I went to school were at least 3 steps beyond our curriculum, which put them in a different galaxy from GA public schools. I have no idea what NY schools have ever been like, all I know is the NY attitude that I've seen firsthand my whole life.
And all I said was that the AP classes were not much different from our normal curriculum and the college that I was accepted at already told me that it wouldn't accept them (or any coursework from the NY colleges either) so not to bother doing them.
You feel like I'm giving you attitude, but I think that you are reading into it. I was explaining why the AP appears very hard some places and not hard in others and why most schools accept it but some do not.
I did one AP class in high school and it was "just another class." We didn't think of it as an AP class, it was just senior math. It did not count for me in college and I had to do it again.
I took AP classes in HS too, calculus.. but really, it was just calculus.. this whole idea that it was AP - I didn't get it, frankly still don't. I learned the same thing that one semester of college would have taught in the subject, I was just lucky enough to take it in HS for free. I was in AP English and History too, but man what a joke. Sure I had to write one or two more papers than they did in regular class, but that didn't see like all that much more rigorous.
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@Dashrender said:
but now a days, we are getting a little bit of everything.
Yeah just look at that @BRRABill yokel. Moron.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Jason said:
Also teachers are usually underqualified to teach anyway.
No argument here... but that may be because they are paid scraps.
One supports the other. We don't want highly skilled teachers, so we don't pay for them, so we don't get them.
We do want highly skilled teachers we just apparently don't want to pay for them.
I don't agree. If we wanted that, we'd pay that. We can say that we want it all that we want but that's just bluster. Actions speak louder than words. I don't know any local community that, as a community, cares about the education of the community.
Out of all the depressing posts this one makes me the most sad. I don't want to get into a political debate and I don't mean what I'm about to say in a political way but we (the US) are making ourselves obsolete. It's really sad.
Really? How is this different than most of US History? Those who could afford to go to school 100 years ago went and were educated well, today, it's just not a real requirement.
The lack of change is the problem from my perspective
Change? by saying lack of, you imply there has been none? Oh beggin' yo'r pardon sir.. there's been a ton o' change! Just look at a test from 100 years ago in nearly any subject - I think we'd be lucky if 1% of students at the same grade level as the test is designed for could actually pass it.
It's changed alright, for the worse. But as I think Scott has inferred, that's not what school is for today. We don't need millions of highly educated people today in today's workforce. A highly educated person doesn't want to be a trash person, or construction worker, factory worker, etc. Getting back to Scott's only 10% of the world actually contribute to the bottom line, the rest are just window dressing. It's true! As robotics/automation make manual labor more and more outdated - I just have no idea what's going to happen to human race - we could move to his plan of putting most on earth welfare where people can just live to live - to enjoy life - think floatie chairs in Wall-E. Those who want to work, invent, make improvements will, those who don't.. well they won't need to because our technology will eventually take care of everything else.
Educating for educating sake while sounding great really isn't. If you have the personal drive, then being educated can be helpful, but if you're like most of the population that just wants to skate by doing the minimum, then why bother with the education, all it will more likely do is make them unhappy.
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@Dashrender said:
Educating for educating sake while sounding great really isn't. If you have the personal drive, then being educated can be helpful, but if you're like most of the population that just wants to skate by doing the minimum, then why bother with the education, all it will more likely do is make them unhappy.
It's actually kind of a form of punishment. The elite need an education and it sucks so they force everyone to do it, useful or not. It keeps the working classes from getting to take advantage of not needing to waste time on education.
Over educating actually increases the income divide!
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This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
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@MattSpeller said:
This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
In a single view I posted probably 15 times.
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
In a single view I posted probably 15 times.
Passionate thread then...
backs away slowly
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@MattSpeller said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
In a single view I posted probably 15 times.
Passionate thread then...
backs away slowly
Well, when you go to lunch and come back an hour later to 40 new posts..
I tell ya.. I love the fact that you can post while in the middle of a thread and it doesn't take you to the end of the thread anymore... it leaves you there.
This way I can read, make a response, keep reading, another response, etc.
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@MattSpeller said:
This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
Yeah, the new way that it counts it doesn't count the refreshes, so if we stay on the thread and it updates live, that doesn't count as a view.
Which is actually pretty awesome that we are getting the view traffic that we do considering how hard it is to qualify as a view to the system!
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@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
@Dashrender said:
@MattSpeller said:
This thread somehow has more posts than views lol
In a single view I posted probably 15 times.
Passionate thread then...
backs away slowly
Well, when you go to lunch and come back an hour later to 40 new posts..
I tell ya.. I love the fact that you can post while in the middle of a thread and it doesn't take you to the end of the thread anymore... it leaves you there.
This way I can read, make a response, keep reading, another response, etc.
yeah, that is a big improvement.
