O365 Fully Installed vs. Online Versions
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@JaredBusch said:
Word/Excel online also do not like to save into the SharePoint team site documents folder. Once you open one through there, you can see it in the recent history, but you cannot directly save a new document into it easily.
SharePoint team site documents also have to be xlsx/docx to be opened in their respective online applications from the web interface.
Thank you for the information. Is there a viable way to do what I am trying to do or is this not really feasible yet? I see that they have an ODfB sync client. Zero experience with any of this.
Why bother with the sync client? The locally installed versions will download and upload on the fly directly to ODfB, no reason to sync other than offline access.
Is the way for me to sync ODfB across all my users and still be able to use O365 using the client I listed? If so, has anyone ever attempted this? What was the result if so?
You have to stop using the term O365. I can't tell what you mean by it. O365 is a licensing program, not a tool. And when I read things that you write, I cannot tell what you are trying to imply by the term.
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@JaredBusch said:
Word/Excel online also do not like to save into the SharePoint team site documents folder. Once you open one through there, you can see it in the recent history, but you cannot directly save a new document into it easily.
SharePoint team site documents also have to be xlsx/docx to be opened in their respective online applications from the web interface.
Thank you for the information. Is there a viable way to do what I am trying to do or is this not really feasible yet? I see that they have an ODfB sync client. Zero experience with any of this.
Why bother with the sync client? The locally installed versions will download and upload on the fly directly to ODfB, no reason to sync other than offline access.
Yeah, WAY better than syncing.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Kelly said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@coliver said:
Oh the difference between Office Web Apps and Office.
Office Web Apps (Word Online, Excel Online, Etc.) leave a lot to be desired. They are more akin to Google Docs then the full version of Office.
I wanted to know specifically what they are capable of doing and what they aren't but I don't see any of that listed. For my average user I'm sure the online version would be fine but I was asked the difference and I really didn't know from a features standpoint.
The largest, and starkest, difference is file access. Office Web Apps will open files stored in One Drive for Business (ODfB). I don't believe (unless something has changed recently) that there is a way to access LAN or local files without sync'ing them to SharePoint Online or ODfB. You also cannot use any macros or scripts, and some advanced functions are missing. There are some others that are oddly MIA as well. I'd have some of your users trial it and see if they can make it work.
My plan was to create an OwnCloud server on Vultr. There is no other way to access the files on that server without syncing to ODfB and having them use ODfB as the primary file server? There is no way for me to use the OwnCloud server as the main server and sync to ODfB as a remote backup?
Why would you want to do this though? If you're plan is to use O365 Online Apps, why use ownCloud at all?
I didn't know that you couldn't access the files on it. I wanted to go from a local file server to a hosted solution but obviously that isn't going to work
What is the perceived benefit of using two rather than one?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Kelly said:
There are some caveats with SharePoint Online. It has issues with certain characters, file name lengths, you cannot have more than 5,000 items in a given view, etc. I haven't attempted to use it as a file server in about a year, but there were enough issues that we were not able to retire our local file server for all of our teams.
That is essentially what I am trying to do. @dafyre this is basically where I'm at.
Which of those issues is giving you a problem? If it is file names being too long or special characters... this sounds like you have some problematic processes to look into. Might not be easy to fix but anything reasonable is going to work in Sharepoint.
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@dafyre said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Has anyone attempted to use ODfB as their primary file server?
I think NTG & co do that for some things, if I'm not mistaken.
We use Sharepoint as a our central shared document system, yes. Works great.
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@wirestyle22 said:
Has anyone attempted to use ODfB as their primary file server?
SP, not ODfB. You can use either or, or mix them together.
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I definitely didn't have enough information. Sometimes I don't know what I'm asking (sorry). After talking to Microsoft for awhile and realizing I could combine plans it turns out it only costs me $2 per user by using E1 and ProPlus together. I also get e-mail encryption out of that as well as a local install. Definitely worth it.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I definitely didn't have enough information. Sometimes I don't know what I'm asking (sorry). After talking to Microsoft for awhile and realizing I could combine plans it turns out it only costs me $2 per user by using E1 and ProPlus together. I also get e-mail encryption out of that as well as a local install. Definitely worth it.
Generally a good idea to go through a VAR for Office365. They tend to have better access to support and the like.
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@coliver said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I definitely didn't have enough information. Sometimes I don't know what I'm asking (sorry). After talking to Microsoft for awhile and realizing I could combine plans it turns out it only costs me $2 per user by using E1 and ProPlus together. I also get e-mail encryption out of that as well as a local install. Definitely worth it.
Generally a good idea to go through a VAR for Office365. They tend to have better access to support and the like.
Assuming he can for a non-profit setup.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I definitely didn't have enough information. Sometimes I don't know what I'm asking (sorry). After talking to Microsoft for awhile and realizing I could combine plans it turns out it only costs me $2 per user by using E1 and ProPlus together. I also get e-mail encryption out of that as well as a local install. Definitely worth it.
Generally a good idea to go through a VAR for Office365. They tend to have better access to support and the like.
Assuming he can for a non-profit setup.
I'm not sure why you couldn't?
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I appreciate all of the help guys. Sorry if this frustrated you at a point
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@wirestyle22 said:
I appreciate all of the help guys. Sorry if this frustrated you at a point
It's how we all learn bro - no worries!
