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    • alexntgA
      alexntg @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      Assuming the links between locations can handle it, I'd have the another server pointing at this one. As for knowing if there are problems, the local clients will be using the DNS of the local server, in the case of the OP, both servers DNS server will be being used by clients. If there are problems you should find out through complaints from them.

      The clients should be set up to use a second DNS server at a different site. If the first one is unavailable, the clients wouldn't notice.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @alexntg
        last edited by

        @alexntg said:

        @Dashrender said:

        Assuming the links between locations can handle it, I'd have the another server pointing at this one. As for knowing if there are problems, the local clients will be using the DNS of the local server, in the case of the OP, both servers DNS server will be being used by clients. If there are problems you should find out through complaints from them.

        The clients should be set up to use a second DNS server at a different site. If the first one is unavailable, the clients wouldn't notice.

        Assuming that strain isn't to much on the connection..

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @Dashrender said:

          The AD box needs access to DNS too. You need to give the secondary DNS server pointing to itself.

          the main DC need only his own ip as DNS server, but the branch DC need the DNS access of the main DC, do you mean that he need his own ip as a second DNS ??

          Yes. Now Scott and Alex are both saying it should point to itself first, but I prefer to point to another DNS server first, and itself second.

          But - if the DC is only pointing to another source, and you remove that source you will find that the DC in question (in your case the branch DC) will have all kinds of problems since it doesn't have DNS to query about services.

          Microsoft has always stated that it needs to point to itself first. There is no benefit to pointing to the other first but many downsides like higher latency and increased traffic.

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by IT-ADMIN

            what about the replication that take place in time, it seems that the branch DC don't respect the Active Directory Sites and Services at all, because i configure the replication to take place at night and finish in the morning

            and how to force branch machines to login from their local DC, ???

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            • alexntgA
              alexntg @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              what about the replication that take place in time, it seems that the branch DC don't respect the Active Directory Sites and Services at all, because i configure the replication to take place at night and finish in the morning

              and how to force branch machines to login from their local DC, ???

              The default replication schedule of a couple hours should be sufficient for most needs. Any more than that could leave the two sites rather out of sync. Less than that's a waste of bandwidth.

              Is their local DC a GC as well?

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                last edited by

                @alexntg said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                what about the replication that take place in time, it seems that the branch DC don't respect the Active Directory Sites and Services at all, because i configure the replication to take place at night and finish in the morning

                and how to force branch machines to login from their local DC, ???

                The default replication schedule of a couple hours should be sufficient for most needs. Any more than that could leave the two sites rather out of sync. Less than that's a waste of bandwidth.

                but at lease the branch DC should respect the schedule, \

                Is their local DC a GC as well?

                Yes it is both a global catalog and DNS server

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                • alexntgA
                  alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @alexntg said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  what about the replication that take place in time, it seems that the branch DC don't respect the Active Directory Sites and Services at all, because i configure the replication to take place at night and finish in the morning

                  and how to force branch machines to login from their local DC, ???

                  The default replication schedule of a couple hours should be sufficient for most needs. Any more than that could leave the two sites rather out of sync. Less than that's a waste of bandwidth.

                  but at lease the branch DC should respect the schedule, \

                  Is their local DC a GC as well?

                  Yes it is both a global catalog and DNS server

                  Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                    last edited by

                    @alexntg said:

                    Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

                    i set client in the main office to use the main DC for DNS resolving and set branch client to use branch DC for DNS resolving

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      what server is providing DHCP for the branch PCs?

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

                        i set client in the main office to use the main DC for DNS resolving and set branch client to use branch DC for DNS resolving

                        And if you run an nslookup against the branch DC, does it resolve queries?

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                          last edited by

                          @alexntg said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

                          i set client in the main office to use the main DC for DNS resolving and set branch client to use branch DC for DNS resolving

                          And if you run an nslookup against the branch DC, does it resolve queries?

                          nslookup in branch client machine or branch DC itself ??

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

                            i set client in the main office to use the main DC for DNS resolving and set branch client to use branch DC for DNS resolving

                            And if you run an nslookup against the branch DC, does it resolve queries?

                            nslookup in branch client machine or branch DC itself ??

                            Nslookup from any client computer, and specify the branch DC as the DNS server.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @alexntg said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @alexntg said:

                              Ok, and what is the primary DNS on each client set to?

                              i set client in the main office to use the main DC for DNS resolving and set branch client to use branch DC for DNS resolving

                              And if you run an nslookup against the branch DC, does it resolve queries?

                              nslookup in branch client machine or branch DC itself ??

                              Both, actually.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller

                                when i run nslookup in any branch computer, it resolve successfully but it use the main DNS even if i they have as primary DNS the ADC ip address
                                what anger me is that machines in the branch office neglect the ADC

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                                • alexntgA
                                  alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  when i run nslookup in any branch computer, it resolve successfully but it use the main DNS even if i they have as primary DNS the ADC ip address
                                  what anger me is that machines in the branch office neglect the ADC

                                  What happens when you force nslookup to use the branch server?

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    what server is providing DHCP for the branch PCs?

                                    Again, what server is providing DHCP to the branch PCs? Is the scope set correctly to give the PC's the DNS of the branch DNS server.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                                      last edited by

                                      @alexntg said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      when i run nslookup in any branch computer, it resolve successfully but it use the main DNS even if i they have as primary DNS the ADC ip address
                                      what anger me is that machines in the branch office neglect the ADC

                                      What happens when you force nslookup to use the branch server?

                                      really i didn't try that, but tomorrow i will go to the branch office and try this, thank you

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                                      • alexntgA
                                        alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @alexntg said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        when i run nslookup in any branch computer, it resolve successfully but it use the main DNS even if i they have as primary DNS the ADC ip address
                                        what anger me is that machines in the branch office neglect the ADC

                                        What happens when you force nslookup to use the branch server?

                                        really i didn't try that, but tomorrow i will go to the branch office and try this, thank you

                                        You can try it from your computer, even. Just force nslookup to use the branch DC.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          what server is providing DHCP for the branch PCs?

                                          Again, what server is providing DHCP to the branch PCs? Is the scope set correctly to give the PC's the DNS of the branch DNS server.

                                          yes, the DHCP is providing the correct DNS setting which is the ip of my ADC as primary DNS and the internet gateway as secondary DNS

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                                          • alexntgA
                                            alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            what server is providing DHCP for the branch PCs?

                                            Again, what server is providing DHCP to the branch PCs? Is the scope set correctly to give the PC's the DNS of the branch DNS server.

                                            yes, the DHCP is providing the correct DNS setting which is the ip of my ADC as primary DNS and the internet gateway as secondary DNS

                                            For the branch site, the DC should be primary DNS, and the DC at your main location should be secondary. Non-AD DNS sources should not be used.

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