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    • C
      Carnival Boy
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      Dunno, but I'm loving the new black theme in Office 2016, so I'm never going back to 2013.

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      • J
        Jason Banned
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        Slightly different issue but looks like microsoft is willing to help out with these type of issues:

        https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Special-offer-for-customers-with-Office-2016-and-Office-2013-standalone-applications-c32e3cad-e935-4163-a44f-50d896e10bbc

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Interesting - I didn't know there was an Office 365 version of Office that didn't include Access.

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            Jason Banned @Dashrender
            last edited by Jason

            @Dashrender said:

            Interesting - I didn't know there was an Office 365 version of Office that didn't include Access.

            I don't think my personal office 365 business premium has it

            Edit: checked it does not.

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            • Mike DavisM
              Mike Davis
              last edited by

              You need the Office 2016 Deployment tool to get a .msi:
              https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49117
              You set up a folder on your server, configure the .xlm file, run the command line to download the install, and then run it again with a different switch to install Office on the client.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Jason
                last edited by

                @Jason said:

                @Dashrender said:

                Interesting - I didn't know there was an Office 365 version of Office that didn't include Access.

                I don't think my personal office 365 business premium has it

                Edit: checked it does not.

                What do you know - I just checked mine, you're right.

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                • Mike DavisM
                  Mike Davis
                  last edited by

                  Actually I just looked at my install folder, and you don't get a .msi from that. But you can install office without having to go through the portal. Will it fix your click to run install thing? I'm not sure. I just used that tool when I didn't want to log in to the portal manually on every machine I wanted to put office on. I was searching for a .msi and never found it.

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn
                    last edited by

                    There isnt a MSI with any office 365 installations, all click-to-run. The deployment tool just sets up a local repository for click-to-run files and you make a script that accesses them.

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                    • C
                      Carnival Boy
                      last edited by

                      So it's impossible to install current, open licence standalone versions of standard Microsoft products if you are an Office 365 Business Premium customer? If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.

                      Is the retail versions of Office products click and run, that would be a possible alternative (but still a massive pita)?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                        last edited by

                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.

                        Maybe not "can't" but let's call it "very technically encouraged."

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Carnival Boy
                          last edited by

                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          So it's impossible to install current, open licence standalone versions of standard Microsoft products if you are an Office 365 Business Premium customer? If you want Access you have to upgrade to the E3 plan at double the cost, or install an older version.That's nuts.

                          Is the retail versions of Office products click and run, that would be a possible alternative (but still a massive pita)?

                          I don't know if you can buy a retail version that it's just a code any more. That started a long time ago with Office 2010. My client bought key-code cards. All they received was a code, then you download click-to-run.

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                            Carnival Boy
                            last edited by

                            Logged a call with Microsoft and they confirmed my worst fears - Open Licence version of Microsoft standalone products cannot be used with O365. It sucks.

                            Basically, if you are a Business Premium customer you cannot use Access, end of. Only E3 or ProPlus customers can use it.

                            (although I suspect the retail version will run, as that is click-to-run as Dash indicates).

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Wow, I wonder if that violates an EU anti-trust law or similar... selling software that is designed to not work on the same machine to force either double buying the application or double buying the OS. Either way, that sounds like anti-trust to me. It might be okay because it is "all one application", that might cause an exception. But I doubt it. That's extremely fishy to have two sales channels designed to conflict and block each other.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                You make it sound like they did it on purpose?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  You make it sound like they did it on purpose?

                                  No, I just point out that they make it sound like they are doing it on purpose. Don't blame the messenger.

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                                  • C
                                    Carnival Boy
                                    last edited by

                                    I don't see how they could not have done it on purpose? AFAIK, it was ok with Office 2013 which is also click-to-run, so this is something they must have deliberately introduced with 2016, for whatever reason.

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                                      Jason Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      Looks to be by design

                                      https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-installed-using-Click-to-Run-and-Window-Installer-on-same-computer-isn-t-supported-30775ef4-fa77-4f47-98fb-c5826a6926cd

                                      https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Error-Stop-you-should-wait-to-install-Office-2016-We-ll-have-to-remove-the-following-if-you-continue-a225347f-e102-4ea6-9796-5d1ac5220c3b?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US

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                                        Jason Banned
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                                        You should be able to uninstall Click to run then use a volume key to install the same level of office you have with 365 as a MSI and then install the standalone MSI for access.

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                                        • C
                                          Carnival Boy
                                          last edited by

                                          That sounds like a great idea, although presumably I'd need to purchase a single volume licence for Office Standard edition.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's a thought.

                                            on your business premium, drop it down to the non local office app version, then for $12/month add a license for O365 Pro Plus.

                                            Then you're back to having everything in a single package for install/management, etc.

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