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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      And another one on CodePlex...

      https://flickrdownloadr.codeplex.com/

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        You want me to trust MULTIPLE ONLINE SERVICES WITH BACKUP??????????

        X for photos
        Y for videos
        Z for documents

        Choose the best tool for each task that suits your needs. Where is the confusion?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by Dashrender

          @scottalanmiller said:

          And another one on CodePlex...

          https://flickrdownloadr.codeplex.com/

          But these tools are just downloading the photos, not the DB.

          I suppose for backup purposes that's OK, I guess I was thinking you had some way to download the DB for backup.
          But then, even if you could download the flickr DB, how would you use it without Flickr's systems?

          Also, is the expectation then that someone is uploading their photos directly to flickr from their device? If so, why not just upload to 2+ online systems at the same time, and skip the upload/download/upload?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            But these tools are just downloading the photos, not the DB.

            Correct, as I said above, you don't really version photos.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Also, is the expectation then that someone is uploading their photos directly to flickr from their device? If so, why not just upload to 2+ online systems at the same time, and skip the upload/download/upload?

              Because I know of no one that would upload automatically, I know of no service that allows going to multiple places at once and that would require a lot more work. I think a single source and good backups work pretty effectively for images.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                Also, is the expectation then that someone is uploading their photos directly to flickr from their device? If so, why not just upload to 2+ online systems at the same time, and skip the upload/download/upload?

                Because I know of no one that would upload automatically, I know of no service that allows going to multiple places at once and that would require a lot more work. I think a single source and good backups work pretty effectively for images.

                Your iPhone won't push pictures to both flickr and One Drive ? Huh - Pretty sure my Windows Phone will. I'm pretty sure Android would as well.

                As for the desktop apps - having two apps sync the same folders to their cloud services should be possible.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  Your iPhone won't push pictures to both flickr and One Drive ? Huh - Pretty sure my Windows Phone will. I'm pretty sure Android would as well.

                  Maybe it will, I never try. I don't want anything pushed automatically so not something that I investigate.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Your iPhone won't push pictures to both flickr and One Drive ? Huh - Pretty sure my Windows Phone will. I'm pretty sure Android would as well.

                    Maybe it will, I never try. I don't want anything pushed automatically so not something that I investigate.

                    Do you transfer all photos to your PC, and then backup from there?

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
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                      @scottalanmiller -- Haven't you been having data issues with Microsoft for a while? It's not that I don't trust my cloud providers... As much as I simply don't know what they are doing to back up my data. That alone concerns me.

                      If I had TBs of data in OneDrive, I'd expect Microsoft to be able to put back a single file, or my entire storage if they whoopsied my folders. I don't know how they are able to accomplish this, so I feel less safe with my data in OneDrive or Amazon Cloud than I do using a service like Crashplan or Backblaze.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Do you transfer all photos to your PC, and then backup from there?

                        No, nothing goes to my PC.

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen
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                          You can do both OneDrive and Flicker from your phone it is great.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said:

                            @scottalanmiller -- Haven't you been having data issues with Microsoft for a while? It's not that I don't trust my cloud providers... As much as I simply don't know what they are doing to back up my data. That alone concerns me.

                            Yes, but not involving the backups.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said:

                              If I had TBs of data in OneDrive, I'd expect Microsoft to be able to put back a single file, or my entire storage if they whoopsied my folders.

                              they would never put back a file. It would always be a restore of the whole thing.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said:

                                @scottalanmiller -- Haven't you been having data issues with Microsoft for a while? It's not that I don't trust my cloud providers... As much as I simply don't know what they are doing to back up my data. That alone concerns me.

                                If I had TBs of data in OneDrive, I'd expect Microsoft to be able to put back a single file, or my entire storage if they whoopsied my folders. I don't know how they are able to accomplish this, so I feel less safe with my data in OneDrive or Amazon Cloud than I do using a service like Crashplan or Backblaze.

                                Those other services are geared toward exactly what you want - individual file restore, One Drive is not. Those other services are also a lot more money too.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Do you transfer all photos to your PC, and then backup from there?

                                  No, nothing goes to my PC.

                                  So you backup manually only when on WiFi - what to save on data charges? Can't those apps be setup to only backup while on on WiFi? Sounding like a broken record, but I'm pretty sure both Android and WP can do that.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @scottalanmiller -- Haven't you been having data issues with Microsoft for a while? It's not that I don't trust my cloud providers... As much as I simply don't know what they are doing to back up my data. That alone concerns me.

                                    If I had TBs of data in OneDrive, I'd expect Microsoft to be able to put back a single file, or my entire storage if they whoopsied my folders. I don't know how they are able to accomplish this, so I feel less safe with my data in OneDrive or Amazon Cloud than I do using a service like Crashplan or Backblaze.

                                    Those other services are geared toward exactly what you want - individual file restore, One Drive is not. Those other services are also a lot more money too.

                                    While it is true that OneDrive is a different animal that Crashplan, at least with Crashplan, I know my data is stored in two additional paces. If I use OneDrive and only OneDrive, I'd be concerned about backups and such... So I'd still need another service to back up my OneDrive...because: Paranoid.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      So you backup manually only when on WiFi - what to save on data charges? Can't those apps be setup to only backup while on on WiFi? Sounding like a broken record, but I'm pretty sure both Android and WP can do that.

                                      I don't backup my phone at all, it is a phone, not a primary storage device.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                        last edited by

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        If I use OneDrive and only OneDrive, I'd be concerned about backups and such... So I'd still need another service to back up my OneDrive...because: Paranoid.

                                        This is the "I don't trust the IT department" thing that I was saying above. Don't use any product if you distrust the vendor to this degree. If you think that they would not take backups, you also can't trust them not to steal your data. This concern, to me, should also eliminate Windows as a viable platform for you across the board. This is a level of trust that I feel you need from your OS vendor.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          So you backup manually only when on WiFi - what to save on data charges? Can't those apps be setup to only backup while on on WiFi? Sounding like a broken record, but I'm pretty sure both Android and WP can do that.

                                          I don't backup my phone at all, it is a phone, not a primary storage device.

                                          So you don't use it to take pictures?

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            If I use OneDrive and only OneDrive, I'd be concerned about backups and such... So I'd still need another service to back up my OneDrive...because: Paranoid.

                                            This is the "I don't trust the IT department" thing that I was saying above. Don't use any product if you distrust the vendor to this degree. If you think that they would not take backups, you also can't trust them not to steal your data. This concern, to me, should also eliminate Windows as a viable platform for you across the board. This is a level of trust that I feel you need from your OS vendor.

                                            But can you trust closed source software? 😛

                                            And I'm trying to get away from Windows... but I also like to play various games, which sadly... require Windows.

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