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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      And the Lord sayeth to the lowly shephard upon the field, thou shalt not take the switch in anger upon thine network.

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        No one's heard that phrase? 🙂

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said:

          No one's heard that phrase? 🙂

          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320

          Nope, never heard it.

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          • Deleted74295D
            Deleted74295 Banned
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            Must be just on this side of the pond. It's used all the time.

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            • hobbit666H
              hobbit666
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              I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                @hobbit666 said:

                I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco

                Well, I don't consider them like Cisco. Definitely better than that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Our EdgeSwitch is very new, so we don't have a lot of time on it. Our EdgeRouters we've been on for years and certainly outclass Cisco. I hate Cisco as a comparison because I consider them to be too broad. Cisco ranges from hobby gear to enterprise and everything in between. The Cisco gear normally used by SMBs I classify as hobby or the most entry level SMB (ASAs, for example.) EdgeRouters are not Cisco competitors, Cisco isn't even thinking of getting into that level of game and at this point knows to stay out of it.

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                  • NattNattN
                    NattNatt @Deleted74295
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                    @Breffni-Potter said:

                    Must be just on this side of the pond. It's used all the time.

                    must be down south, never heard it in Manchester/Derbyshire...but then we have phrases I say to my southern friends and they're like "What?!"

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                    • hobbit666H
                      hobbit666 @Deleted74295
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                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                      One is POE, the other is not.

                      That's the only difference I see listed.

                      I see them both as PoE?
                      Only difference I can see between the Unifi Switch and Edge Switch is one is controller managed.

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                      • NattNattN
                        NattNatt @hobbit666
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                        @hobbit666 said:

                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                        One is POE, the other is not.

                        That's the only difference I see listed.

                        I see them both as PoE?
                        Only difference I can see between the Unifi Switch and Edge Switch is one is controller managed.

                        http://www.4gon.co.uk/ubiquiti-edgeswitch-lite-48-port-p-6583.html isn't PoE as far as I can tell?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @NattNatt
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                          @NattNatt said:

                          @hobbit666 said:

                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          One is POE, the other is not.

                          That's the only difference I see listed.

                          I see them both as PoE?
                          Only difference I can see between the Unifi Switch and Edge Switch is one is controller managed.

                          http://www.4gon.co.uk/ubiquiti-edgeswitch-lite-48-port-p-6583.html isn't PoE as far as I can tell?

                          We have it, it is definitely not PoE. The "Lite" means non-PoE.

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                          • hobbit666H
                            hobbit666
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                            Sorry I was comparing the normal ones not the "Lite" Version. 😄

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                              Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller I hate Cisco because they so damn expensive.....

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                @scottalanmiller other than price - what makes you dislike their stuff so much?

                                What equipment specifically is hobby level? I would have said their Linksys, but they sold that to Belkin.

                                What makes ERL so much better than and ASA (other than the starting ASA is 4-5 times the price)?
                                I'm guessing the ERL can do more because UNBT doesn't intentionally hamstring many router function forcing you to buy an even more expensive piece of gear to get a real router.

                                Then there's the whole open source vs closed source thing.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller other than price - what makes you dislike their stuff so much?

                                  Price is the key, but it's astronomic. For example, it is more than $3K to compare to a $95 Ubiquiti. So you get into the price range where you are dealing with home gear from Cisco in the price range of Ubiquiti - so price is so big that it starts to become other issues because Cisco sells things that are hobby level and Ubiquiti is enterprise only. So at some point, it's not just that Cisco costs more but that everything remotely in the product range is a toy and should never be considered.

                                  Cisco support and engineering that I've dealt with actually crossed the line into offensive. Straight up lying to try to make sales combined with less than hobbyist networking knowledge from their engineers.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    What equipment specifically is hobby level? I would have said their Linksys, but they sold that to Belkin.

                                    It wasn't Linksys under Cisco, it was Cisco's name. Cisco's reputation and and quality is defined by what they stand behind. That old Linksys and Sipura gear is how Cisco sees their customers, plain and simple.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      What makes ERL so much better than and ASA (other than the starting ASA is 4-5 times the price)?

                                      Performance, features, source, security...

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        So other than Linksys - what other gear specifically are you calling hobby gear from Cisco?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          So other than Linksys - what other gear specifically are you calling hobby gear from Cisco?

                                          Anything under $3K pretty much. And why do you require more as if several lines of gear aren't enough?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            And don't forget the Meraki line. It's not hobby, it's solid SMB, but it isn't on par with Ubiquiti which leaves Cisco, again, in the "it's not bad, it just fails to be good enough to ever discuss" category.

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