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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      I'm trying to figure out how to best handle those. Maybe moving them all to imgur once we have a decent set of them.

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      • AmbarishrhA
        Ambarishrh
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        How about giving option ONLY to upload files locally and not to rely on a web link to look for images?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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          @Ambarishrh said:

          How about giving option ONLY to upload files locally and not to rely on a web link to look for images?

          We are trying to not have that happen at all, we don't want to be in the image serving business.

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          • AmbarishrhA
            Ambarishrh
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            Does it take a lot of space for image icons?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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              @Ambarishrh said:

              Does it take a lot of space for image icons?

              Storage is not the issue, bandwidth and server capacity is.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                  @anonymous said:

                  Also, does grovesocial have permission to use these images?

                  It's not GroveSocial using them. It's a community forum.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    However, if we have to have them, they should be loading from mangolassi directly.

                    ML hosts "no" images at all (favicon, logo and a few miscellaneous exceptions.) Not the avatars, nothing. Not even when you upload an image.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                      @anonymous said:

                      IMHO it was better without the topic Images.

                      What do you dislike about topic thumbnails? Do you feel that seeing OP avatars is more valuable as a graphical references than having something related to the topic? Considering many people, such as yourself, do not have an avatar isn't anything better than the useless, blank graphic that often shows up?

                      I'm assuming you dislike all graphics on the site completely as you dislike the topical ones and avoid the user ones?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                            @anonymous said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            ML hosts "no" images at all (favicon, logo and a few miscellaneous exceptions.) Not the avatars, nothing. Not even when you upload an image.

                            Yes, but why?

                            Because it's not a logical way to run a community at scale. The ability to host images well requires a CDN designed for that. That's not what we do and never will be. Just like anything, get good hosting from those that do it well. Same reason that you wouldn't host your own DNS or WordPress site - there is no value to it. It costs a lot for something that is basically free from other means and no matter how much you put into it you can't do it as well.

                            There are lots of reasons not to host images, why would you want to even go down that path? What upside do you see to the community running its own image hosting framework and CDN system?

                            I assume you also feel that using a third party email system is not a good idea and that the community needs to build in its own MTA?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                              @anonymous said:

                              Who server is it hosted on? Who pays for the bandwidth?

                              Not generally relevant in this sort of scenario. It is community content. Hosted on Rackspace's servers.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Or do you mean where are the images hosted? Because the images are not hosted with the community. The images are nearly all hosted by Gravatar (WordPress) and Imgur.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  The bandwidth for the avatars, for example, is paid for by Wordpress (or whatever their company's name is.)

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                      @anonymous said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      The bandwidth for the avatars, for example, is paid for by Wordpress (or whatever their company's name is.)

                                      Automattic

                                      Right, I knew that it was something along those lines. A bit of a silly name, no connection to what they do and not clear who they are.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
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                                        Now if the thumbnails are causing performance issues, that needs to be addressed, of course. But there are no more or fewer images now that before and no different functionality than before. It's just that many recent topics have the thumbnails filled in and many old ones do not. But in all cases an image from an external source, normally Automattic, are displayed.

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                                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                            @anonymous said:

                                            You still haven't told us what your going to do about deleted images?

                                            Is this a major concern? As most of them are blank or placeholders that are being replaced with thumbnails, is that even something to worry about. What if we do nothing and images get deleted, is that actually a problem?

                                            Long term I'm sure the solution is having images in a single source like the avatars are uploaded images are.

                                            But I'm confused as to what you are worried about. I can't address your concern without knowing what it is. Currently you are saying that you dislike having the thumbnails, but your concern is that they might then go away? Wouldn't that then be an improvement for you?

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