Chopping off their own feet....
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@scottalanmiller said:
By community mods I mean community participants that act as mods. Not separate mods.
that in itself became a thankless job, volunteering to help for free to maintain a product that we loved became a struggle of who was right and who was wrong. Hire a new CM, the new CM was more powerful and had more say than the mods and admins, that person could override everyone. EVEN IF that CM was in the wrong, didn't know what they were talking about, or out of context removed a post based on ignorance; they still overrode the free mods. And that in itself caused so many problems its mind numbing.
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Yes. Although lack of CM management was a separate issue. That itself wasn't a result if the mixed mods. Although the "hired guns" feel that came about wasn't good. Newbies with no view of the community as a continuum didn't do it any favors. People with almost a decade of participation given no more clout that bot accounts.
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@RAM. Thanks for the mentioning me, buddy.
I post on that other website less for a few reasons:
Quality over Quantity. The people over here are top problem solvers for the other website.
The other site is now run by vendors. Every thing they do is sponsored by a vendor. To me that means that there is an obvious motive for every event. No vendor is going to pay for sponsoring an event and receive nothing in return.
The power struggle a few months ago showed that money was the number one concern of the other website now. You can see they are just hiring like crazy. You cant hire the best people anymore when you are constantly hiring. From my understanding, Everyone that was employed with them in the past was highly technical. If you have observed some of the new employees, you will know that is no longer the case. They are just like the sales people that haunt us on a daily basis.
Loss of vision and backbone. They definitely lost their original vision. They are no longer good guys that sell ads just to pay for development of their helpdesk software. There is money being passed around like crazy. When you have so much money from different places coming in, you dont want to offend anyone. That is why you are starting to see less and less heated discussions.
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There are a few Spicy Peppers that avoid me now because of my participation on here. Anyone else on Mangolassi experience this?
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I am getting less chatty PM's these days....
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@IRJ said:
There are a few Spicy Peppers that avoid me now because of my participation on here. Anyone else on Mangolassi experience this?
Yes. Some less. Some much less. Some more. It's clear that many people treat it like a cult and you must drink the Koolaid or else. They forget or don't understand that it is the support forum for a specific vendor and not something magical. The community reactions to a lot if things are very weird. Very fanboy over there.
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The fanboy mentality is going strong for many. But eventually I am sure people will wise up and get smart
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Although since I left the secret society, people avoided me anyway. I'm only there to help IT pros, not to be a part of that mess if drama. So people were already upset with me.
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@Minion-Queen said:
The fanboy mentality is going strong for many. But eventually I am sure people will wise up and get smart
I dont think so. The fanboy mentality is kind of built in to the whole geek culture.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
There are a few Spicy Peppers that avoid me now because of my participation on here. Anyone else on Mangolassi experience this?
Yes. Some less. Some much less. Some more. It's clear that many people treat it like a cult and you must drink the Koolaid or else. They forget or don't understand that it is the support forum for a specific vendor and not something magical. The community reactions to a lot if things are very weird. Very fanboy over there.
There are some that are very cult-like and I think we know who those people are.
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@IRJ said:
@Minion-Queen said:
The fanboy mentality is going strong for many. But eventually I am sure people will wise up and get smart
I dont think so. The fanboy mentality is kind of built in to the whole geek culture.
Consumer geek tech yes, I don't see it at all in serious IT.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
@Minion-Queen said:
The fanboy mentality is going strong for many. But eventually I am sure people will wise up and get smart
I dont think so. The fanboy mentality is kind of built in to the whole geek culture.
Consumer geek tech yes, I don't see it at all in serious IT.
Well at least half of the other website's users arent serious IT
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@IRJ said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
@Minion-Queen said:
The fanboy mentality is going strong for many. But eventually I am sure people will wise up and get smart
I dont think so. The fanboy mentality is kind of built in to the whole geek culture.
Consumer geek tech yes, I don't see it at all in serious IT.
Well at least half of the other website's users arent serious IT
VERY true!
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It always surprises me how much more I know then some of them and I while I am in IT I am no where near the level of my team. It is crazy how not IT many of them are.
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At least one of the SPs is watching this thread and reporting back to the OGs
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that's okay. seems to be the culture in forums. Get to the top (or close) of the mountain, get big britches, start upsetting the very folks that carried you to the top...branch off, small new forum with a high density of originals, tech talent, etc. Heck, this is going on in one of my automotive forums as we speak! it's funny the similarities, just the parts/pieces/lingo are different.
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@Hubtech said:
that's okay. seems to be the culture in forums. Get to the top (or close) of the mountain, get big britches, start upsetting the very folks that carried you to the top...branch off, small new forum with a high density of originals, tech talent, etc. Heck, this is going on in one of my automotive forums as we speak! it's funny the similarities, just the parts/pieces/lingo are different.
Fishing forums are the worst. A bunch of lying secretive bastards haha
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People post pictures of their fish with everything completely blurred out except them and the fish. What is the point of even posting a picture. I can understand not wanting to give your spots away but grow up
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haha. my wife makes fun of me for being on so many forums. my most "obscure" forum is ThisONE
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@IRJ said:
At least one of the SPs is watching this thread and reporting back to the OGs
sure as hell a'int me, after my rant the other day on Mango, it kind of solidified my stance on most of whats going on over there.
Is there a mentality of fanboyism over there? I doubt it'll degrade any time soon. I mean in all honesty my use of the site, my goal of the sites for the longest time was to solve problems, and learn. Many other IT folks joined in and we learned together, we as a whole taught and learned from one another (another shout out to @IRJ and @scottalanmiller ). It was very comforting that I had a safe place to learn. A very "politically correct" feel began to take over the site, vendors started to march in, and the serious nature has begun to turn into a gaming forum. For every 10 serious questions, there are easily 100 water cooler, gaming, and random posts. Its not a place for IT anymore, its becoming a place for the lowest common denominator in IT, people who say they like computers, get jobs doing it, but don't know a damn thing about 'em.
But I can't say I looked at Mango in a high light when I first heard about it either. It came off as a "we're better than you, look at us" kind of feel. Which as I'm looking at it now and discard my blind ignorance, I see that's not true. Mango is the original people from the other site that helped me, and that I liked, tired of the same stuff I am.
You guys are all very awesome :-). Shout out time @PSX_Defector @Nic @Aaron-Studer @Minion-Queen . Literally no point to these shout outs, just wanted to do 'em.
