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    SAN LUNs Do Not Act Like NAS Shares

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    • ntoxicatorN
      ntoxicator
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      XenMotion

      Article I found
      https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2012/08/24/storage_xenmotion/

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      • coliverC
        coliver @ntoxicator
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        @ntoxicator said:

        Thank you. I will look into it?? As Within XenCenter, I click the XenServer node and the disk attached and when I click "move" it throws me an error.

        however, when the VM is shut down - i can move the disk without problem..

        Its just concerning that its a Windows Server domain, with shares. How would it still be able to write the data to the new Storage Repository and put it back together and be fine? meh

        It's all block data. It doesn't really care what is sitting on top of it. What version of XenServer are you running?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
          last edited by

          @ntoxicator said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          XenMotion

          Article I found
          https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2012/08/24/storage_xenmotion/

          2012... back when it was a Citrix product. We mean XenMotion now, not then 😉 Citrix donated the entire XenServer project to Linux Foundation since 2012.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @ntoxicator said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            XenMotion

            Article I found
            https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2012/08/24/storage_xenmotion/

            2012... back when it was a Citrix product. We mean XenMotion now, not then 😉 Citrix donated the entire XenServer project to Linux Foundation since 2012.

            This information, or rather the lack of knowing it, has been the cause for countless misunderstandings in the hypervisor world!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Same with any products, really. Outdated information whether by time or product version is always confusing. Things change over time. 2012 is a generation ago in IT time.

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              • ntoxicatorN
                ntoxicator
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                Great info... I've been using Citrix XenServer since around 2012. The Free version. Had the Enterprise version with HA and other features in the small datacenter I helped manage. it was $$$$$$$$$$$$$ along with using Citrix XenApp $$$$$$$

                Probably why I had the bad taste in my mouth.. better feeling now they passed it to Linux foundation.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  For most of a decade, people tried to promote KVM as open source because Xen wasn't exactly open for the first couples years back in like 2003. That legacy lasted for something like five times the length of the software actually not being open. Once someone had written it down, everyone just kept repeating it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    For most of a decade, people tried to promote KVM as open source because Xen wasn't exactly open for the first couples years back in like 2003. That legacy lasted for something like five times the length of the software actually not being open. Once someone had written it down, everyone just kept repeating it.

                    This is like trying to kill off RAID 5.

                    And now that RAID 5 is viable again with SSDs, we're in even a worst state of what is happening 😉

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                      @ntoxicator said:

                      Probably why I had the bad taste in my mouth.. better feeling now they passed it to Linux foundation.

                      Oh yeah, back in 2012 we recommended XCP, not XenServer, for exactly these reasons. XCP was the reference open source, free distro of Xen then. But since that time XenServer was donated to Linux Foundation just as Xen was. So now all three are from the LF and XCP and XS have been merged into a single product.

                      Xen has always been really awesome. And there have always been a few good distros of it. XenServer only recently became a good one, it was total garbage before the LF took it over and merged it with XCP.

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                      • ntoxicatorN
                        ntoxicator
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                        So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                        next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                        Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                        I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @ntoxicator
                          last edited by coliver

                          @ntoxicator said:

                          So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                          next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                          Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                          I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

                          6.2 was the first LF version, I think. You need to update to atleast that. If not go the entire way to 6.5 just make sure you have decent backups.

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                          • ntoxicatorN
                            ntoxicator
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                            I'll be cautious route and upgrade to 6.1 first. and All is well, I'll proceed to 6.2. Essentially incremental updates

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @ntoxicator
                              last edited by coliver

                              @ntoxicator said:

                              I'll be cautious route and upgrade to 6.1 first. and All is well, I'll proceed to 6.2. Essentially incremental updates

                              You'll need to be on 6.2 before you can upgrade to 6.5 anyway so that is a good idea. Speaking of... I really need to update to 6.5...

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                                last edited by

                                @ntoxicator said:

                                So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                                next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                                Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                                I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

                                XS was pretty crap in the Citrix era.

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                                • ntoxicatorN
                                  ntoxicator
                                  last edited by ntoxicator

                                  I'll upgrade to 6.1 after holiday when i return from small vacation im taking away from office. Once on 6.1, I'll incremental upgrade to 6.2. from there.. 6.5

                                  hopeful it will go smooth. see what happens

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Holiday meaning Christmas?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Going somewhere cool for vacation?

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                                      • ntoxicatorN
                                        ntoxicator
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                                        ehhh. if you mean cool and in 'cold'.. haha. Going to upstate NY to visit family for Christmas. First Christmas with them in 5 years

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                                          last edited by

                                          @ntoxicator said:

                                          ehhh. if you mean cool and in 'cold'.. haha. Going to upstate NY to visit family for Christmas. First Christmas with them in 5 years

                                          Really? More of us from Upstate NY than any other region here in the community. Where are you normally based and where in Upstate are you headed?

                                          This community's annual conference is being held in Rochester in September!!

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                                          • ntoxicatorN
                                            ntoxicator
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                                            I grew up in Syracuse area (well, outside in small community). Flying into Rochester (cheapest this year) and then driving back towards Syracuse.

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