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      marcinozga @ntoxicator
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      @ntoxicator said:

      But wouldnt all that storage replication STILL be handled over 1Gbe backbone??!

      Dual port 10Gbit ethernet cards cost as low as $400-$500.

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        coliver @ntoxicator
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        @ntoxicator said:

        UPDATE

        Oracle just got back to me on Pricing. Made me puke

        10K PER server for a F*** simple 1U box? what f[moderated] is going on with this market, have I completely lost touch?

        Check out http://www.xbyte.com/.

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          scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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          @ntoxicator said:

          As you know I was looking at 2X Synology rackmount 12-disk units (replication - HA setup). and then just Hypervisor nodes.

          But damn.. Oracle hit me with 10k per 1U server. what the hell

          That's four or five total nodes. How much total storage needs?

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            ntoxicator
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            Right, which I was prospecting to have 3 large Hypervisor nodes to handle workload.. but might need to scale larger to handle the future

            again, company plans to have 400-500 employee's by year 2020.

            Total storage. I would guesstimate would grow larger than 5TB in 2+ years.

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              scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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              @ntoxicator said:

              Total storage. I would guesstimate would grow larger than 5TB in 2+ years.

              That size is easy to handle. No problem there.

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                coliver @ntoxicator
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                @ntoxicator said:

                Right, which I was prospecting to have 3 large Hypervisor nodes to handle workload.. but might need to scale larger to handle the future

                again, company plans to have 400-500 employee's by year 2020.

                Total storage. I would guesstimate would grow larger than 5TB in 2+ years.

                That really isn't that much. You could look at a middle of the road R720xd and get several times that amount in just one server.

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                  ntoxicator
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                  But all these 400 future employee's using a RDP wrapper to launch their software? Similar to thin-client. (2X Application Server)

                  I do not install the needed customer software on the employee's workstations. Much easier to handle. I'd be putting out even more fires on daily basis.

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                    ntoxicator
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                    its Billing Related software.. medical billing. as FYI

                    So we deal with numerous different EHR/PM systems. One day looking to be able to streamline to one central software. This is a challenge

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                      Jason Banned @ntoxicator
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                      @ntoxicator said:

                      Right, which I was prospecting to have 3 large Hypervisor nodes to handle workload.. but might need to scale larger to handle the future

                      again, company plans to have 400-500 employee's by year 2020.

                      Total storage. I would guesstimate would grow larger than 5TB in 2+ years.

                      That's Pretty tiny really.

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                        scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                        @ntoxicator said:

                        again, company plans to have 400-500 employee's by year 2020.

                        Long term growth is actually a spot where hyperconverged solutions will normally shine. They have much better growth paths in most cases. With the Synology approach, for example, you will be at your maximum storage performance (your main bottleneck) on day one and as you grow you will have no good performance growth path outside of ripping and replacing. Going with something like Scale or similar HC paths you grow simply by adding a node. So you could start "small" today meeting today's needs and only buy more as needed in the future so only investing when additional capacity is needed which both puts off the purchase to save money (time-value of money) and reduces risk by only buying capacity when it is needed, not buying it and risking it never being needed. The HC approach grows your storage (capacity AND performance) while you grow compute in lock step so you don't get stuck having to rip and replace to upgrade your bottleneck.

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                          ntoxicator
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                          @Jason said:

                          400-500 employee's by year 2020.

                          But right now, honestly. I'm not certain of what I can 100% project for storage needs 3-5 years. I can just take a look and guess at the storage growth on a monthly basis and calculate there.

                          As using roaming profiles + company shares and other misc. data on network.

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                            scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                            @ntoxicator said:

                            But all these 400 future employee's using a RDP wrapper to launch their software? Similar to thin-client. (2X Application Server)

                            They are located down the street from my house. I've been out drinking with them many times.

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                              ntoxicator
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                              Tell Chris Dill hello (If in Texas?)

                              Yeah before 2X was over-sea's... but Parallels bought them out.

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                                scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                                @ntoxicator said:

                                Tell Chris Dill hello (If in Texas?)

                                Yeah before 2X was over-sea's... but Parallels bought them out.

                                Yeah, Dallas. But I'm the one overseas now. I'm in Texas this month for the holiday but in Galveston. Was living in Nicaragua until a week ago. Moving to Greece in a few weeks. Just here visiting for the moment.

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                                  ntoxicator
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                                  Busy man!!! 🙂

                                  Good stuff.

                                  You're right on about your concerns about growth and up-scaling . I really like what Scale has to offer.

                                  As yes, I would be limited to Synology Rackstation NAS... As RAID-10 array i CANNOT add more disks for additional storage. So that means I cannot grow the volumes any larger than the current 'shelf'

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                                    Jason Banned @ntoxicator
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                                    @ntoxicator said:

                                    As using roaming profiles + company shares and other misc. data on network.

                                    You'll probably want to ditch the roaming profiles. Small companies tend to like those but they really suck and it's problems show quickly when you have many users on it.

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                                      ntoxicator
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                                      I understand and i see that as issue moving forward

                                      Just every employee uses outlook. Its very common to have employee's shifted from one workstation to another. So having data saved locally on a workstation here is a nope.

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                                        coliver @ntoxicator
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                                        @ntoxicator said:

                                        I understand and i see that as issue moving forward

                                        Just every employee uses outlook. Its very common to have employee's shifted from one workstation to another. So having data saved locally on a workstation here is a nope.

                                        OWA for the win! Stop using Outlook and this problem goes away. Then you could do home folders and document redirection (which can have its own issue) to solve the other common uses for roaming profiles.

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                                          ntoxicator
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                                          I know I push OWA here as much as possible. Users are not the brightest and often complain 'we dont like the webmail'

                                          Already paying Office365 hosted Exchange.

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                                            ntoxicator
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                                            I think home folders would create entire new issue. I'm just not familiar and experience with it. Always done roaming profiles & folder redirection.

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